No. United owns the flying and they are giving to mostly Mesa, and some to Republic.

Aspen is really good flying in my opinion. Just give it a try and if you don't like it then you should transfer out.

I tend to agree with the above. I love aspen personally. But the monetary difference between 95 hours in pbs with 14+ days off vs 12 off reserve at 75 is just not worth it for jr guys

Haven't heard that and I don't foresee it happening just yet since we're easily keeping up with attrition. Looking towards the future just assume each carrier will one up each other by $.50 to a buck per hour or some kind of bonus around $5k-$20k and that'll most likely depend on if you have an ATP or type already. These wage increases are geared to a newhire and not the pilot group since that's way cheaper and not really necessary. Remember this... It's not personal it's just business. I've used that line and it's kept me pretty upbeat while going through the years.

I think the philosophy is it doesn't matter how much you pay someone if they have plans to move on they will move on regardless because no regional can ever pay as much as mainline

Unless something new has happened, a few months ago SAPA announced their desire to ask company to come back to the table early. I didn't hear an update past that.
Truth be told they will have to start negotiating relatively soon anyway for the natural end of our short term agreement.

Even before that, someone at SAPA sent out a communication (may have been R.J.) that it was actually the company who approached SAPA to open up pay talks early. They quickly did a 180, and changed their story to say that SAPA were the ones approaching the company completely unsolicited, and not to get your hopes up.

Yeah, I remember that. Why would they backpedal like that? I could certainly see it being in the company's favor to raise new hire pay right now.

Ya I bet mesa could really handle another 4000 block hours in iah.

Optics, to make it seem like the pilot's don't have any negotiating leverage.

There are a bunch of good and hard working guys in SAPA, they're smart, mean well, and try to have the pilots back's as much as they can. But never forget, SAPA is primarily a tool for the company, not the pilots. It was implemented, and funded by the company, not the pilots. They do a lot of good work, and are standup guys, but SAPA's main purpose is being the company's mouthpiece.