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Yes. "Rift" . Sorry i have kids jumping on me.. but trying to stay involved in this conversation... on a side note we do have some former "rockers" at OO. One of them was quite famous..
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
(Post 2425778)
A union drive doesn't necessarily have anything to do with ALPA. In fact, if there was a union drive starting, I'm almost positive it would have nothing to do with ALPA. The last few pilot groups that went ALPA have all been organic. ALPA now takes the stance that they are hands off until the internal union drive is well under way and strong. So I doubt you have anything to worry about.
Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2425771)
We all wish it would or wouldn't happen. I have heard of no such drive and im in touch with the very vocal alpa guys.. and not a peep from them...
Not saying anything is going to come of any of it. In fact, I dont't have high hopes at all, but efforts are underway, and they most definitely include ALPA. |
Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
(Post 2425812)
You don't like it here? GTFO. Tell us how the union is benefiting you at Envoy or some other crap ALPA carrier.
ALPA doesn't do crap for regional carriers except drain pilots of what little pay they have. |
Originally Posted by spaaks
(Post 2425910)
shockingly sounds like mgmt actually followed through on their promise of growth for your 1% contract!
No matter how many airplanes we receive, it isn't worth voting in a loss of pay and more importantly taking away negotiating power from other regionals. |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
(Post 2426390)
I'm not shocked. I believed they had plans for growth but if I could do it over again I would still vote no.
No matter how many airplanes we receive, it isn't worth voting in a loss of pay and more importantly taking away negotiating power from other regionals. Big pair raise.. no, stability i.e. Growth, yes... |
Originally Posted by Blackwing
(Post 2426354)
Seems like everything we get, XJT gets first.
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Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2426401)
We didn't vote in a loss of pay....??? And your PPS bonus will be larger next week also...
Big pair raise.. no, stability i.e. Growth, yes... Accepting a contract that leaves money on the table is concessionary. That's exactly what we did. Some people complain that you don't want to pay ALPA a cut of your pay? Newsflash- you've already given away a cut of your paycheck when you voted yes to that contract, but instead of going to ALPA for benefits from them, it's paying for airplanes for the company. |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
(Post 2426444)
Newsflash- you've already given away a cut of your paycheck when you voted yes to that contract, but instead of going to ALPA for benefits from them, it's paying for airplanes for the company.
Flight instructors have more leverage than regional pilots, because they can vote with their feet. The only way to win is to get out (or get really lucky and a catch good wave such that you retire before your regional reaches the end of it's natural life cycle). You have to decide for yourself whether the benefits they do offer are worth 2%. But they'll happily take your money either way. |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
(Post 2426444)
Our pay raise didn't even match inflation. My spending power will still decrease next year when compared to this year. That is asinine.
Accepting a contract that leaves money on the table is concessionary. That's exactly what we did. Some people complain that you don't want to pay ALPA a cut of your pay? Newsflash- you've already given away a cut of your paycheck when you voted yes to that contract, but instead of going to ALPA for benefits from them, it's paying for airplanes for the company. |
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