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05-13-2017 | 02:53 PM

#7211

rickair7777

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

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Originally Posted by WesternSkies

Other times PBS (depending properties) will work junior guys almost nonstop (30 hour overnights) before and after vacation with low paying trips.

You have to waive something to do more than six days at work using 30 hours overnights to reset 117. Policy is you get two days off after six on, unless waived by you.

05-13-2017 | 03:21 PM

#7212

Tippy

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I am in a similar spot with 8 days of vacation end of June, looking for tips to not get raped the rest of the month?

05-13-2017 | 03:32 PM

#7213

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

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I am in a similar spot with 8 days of vacation end of June, looking for tips to not get raped the rest of the month?

If you use the minimum 2.5 daily vacation credit that means the scheduled vacation will burn less from your user/vacation banks, but it also means PBS will have to give you more flying to meet your credit target. You can always try to bid a lower monthly credit, but that only works if it's a light month and other pilots try to bid higher credit.

If you use a higher vacation burn, that will make the rest of the month easier but of course deplete your bank faster.

I always use 2.5, to maximize the time off which I can schedule far in advance vs hoping for some days off in the bid, which may or may not be where I want them.

Also...you guys know you can also use user time for vacation, right? You just have to not blow it all on sick calls, missed commutes, etc.

05-13-2017 | 04:14 PM

#7214

elmetal

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Oh user time? The one where we accrue 20 hours a year? Right... One 4 day sick call a year. Yay

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05-13-2017 | 04:50 PM

#7215

hotbreeze

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100th 175

I see the 100th 175 (Delta Connection) was delivered to Boise. Also, we have already delivered our last of 12 175s for 2017 to United according to their website.

Any one know how many more 175s are coming online this year and for which partners and where they will be based?

05-13-2017 | 05:06 PM

#7216

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Originally Posted by hotbreeze

Also said 400 total aircraft by july..

05-13-2017 | 05:14 PM

#7217

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

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Originally Posted by elmetal

Oh user time? The one where we accrue 20 hours a year? Right... One 4 day sick call a year. Yay

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Like most employers, in all industries, vacation(user) accrual increases with years of service.

First/second year pilots complaining that they don't get more than a couple weeks off per year sounds entitled...especially in the airlines.

If you want "normal" vacation, you can have it without disrupting the rest of your life.

If you want epic time off, you can have that too, but at a price. Let's say you saved up 50 hours of vacay + user...
Bid three weeks of vacation, crossing two months. Then bid 5-6 days off before the vacay in the first month and 5-6 days off after the vacay in the second month. You just got over a month off.

Try that in Corporate America after two years on the job....they'll have changed the locks by the time you get back.

05-13-2017 | 05:31 PM

#7218

amcnd

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Also its yours to take with you when you leave.. (they cash you out)

05-13-2017 | 05:39 PM

#7219

elmetal

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I'm not a first or second year employee. And this isn't corporate America. I'm comparing us to other airlines. Including but not limited to republic, xjt, PSA, pdt, etc.

And yeah. 12 days off of vacation and 4 sick days a year until year 5 is absolutely ridiculous.

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