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Old 10-03-2017 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bravix
Only reason I went Skywest instead of Endeavor was to avoid anything east of the Midwest. No way I'd go Skywest with a junior base like that.

The benefit to SKW is that you can get back west pretty quickly and have plenty of options longer-term. If you want the west from day one, well that's kind of hard since the majority of US regional flying occurs in the densely populated eastern US.

By happenstance, CZ has junior bases in the west now.

Or you could try QX...and settle in to wait for the 19 year upgrade.
Old 10-03-2017 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bravix
Only reason I went Skywest instead of Endeavor was to avoid anything east of the Midwest. No way I'd go Skywest with a junior base like that.
Oh, I agree. When I came to SkyWest, Envoy and Endeavor were burning dumpster fires and the bases at SkyWest made this place a no-brainer. If I had to make that decision all over for the base that I am in now, SkyWest would likely be choice 2 or 3. The only reason that Detroit is afloat right now is because people who want to be based out west are being funneled there. If LGA were to become our junior base and time in base at DTW increased, making duration of stay to go to ORD/MSP and all the other western bases longer, I am sure that many potential applicants would shun this place like a plague, and they cannot be faulted for that. If the base that I am in now could not be attained for a year while I could get it at Envoy right away and make $20k more first year, have a flow and have a one year upgrade as the situation truly has unfolded, why would I come here? For QOL? Everyone at my base is already getting 6 consecutive days on followed by 2 off. There is no QOL here.
Old 10-03-2017 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
Oh, I agree. When I came to SkyWest, Envoy and Endeavor were burning dumpster fires and the bases at SkyWest made this place a no-brainer. If I had to make that decision all over for the base that I am in now, SkyWest would likely be choice 2 or 3. The only reason that Detroit is afloat right now is because people who want to be based out west are being funneled there. If LGA were to become our junior base and time in base at DTW increased, making duration of stay to go to ORD/MSP and all the other western bases longer, I am sure that many potential applicants would shun this place like a plague, and they cannot be faulted for that. If the base that I am in now could not be attained for a year while I could get it at Envoy right away and make $20k more first year, have a flow and have a one year upgrade as the situation truly has unfolded, why would I come here? For QOL? Everyone at my base is already getting 6 consecutive days on followed by 2 off. There is no QOL here.
I agree there is some good things going on out there. But what you said a Envoy is for “guys hired 1 year ago” my not apply fo someone hired today.. thats why i say SkyWest is a good bet right now. With what is in store for the next 12 months (45 ERJ’s + some used 200’s). Someone hired today will reep that reward...
Old 10-03-2017 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Do yourself a favor and bail out and go elsewhere. Go bless others with your positive go-get-em attitude.
How can you fault someone for trying to make sense of the entire picture?
Old 10-03-2017 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
How can you fault someone for trying to make sense of the entire picture?
Mercyful Fate is the office troll.
Old 10-03-2017 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
How can you fault someone for trying to make sense of the entire picture?
Lmao, a snowflake millennial whining because he doesn't want to pay any dues, and thinks he is entitled to have what he wants right now is "trying to make sense of the entire picture"?

Okay.
Old 10-03-2017 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Truthanator
Lmao, a snowflake millennial whining because he doesn't want to pay any dues, and thinks he is entitled to have what he wants right now is "trying to make sense of the entire picture"?

Okay.
It's always funny when bitter old timers come onto APC to complain about the new generations that are getting hired on at legacies in hordes nowadays with zero TPIC.
Old 10-03-2017 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
It's always funny when bitter old timers come onto APC to complain about the new generations that are getting hired on at legacies in hordes nowadays with zero TPIC.
I'm not sure the term "hordes" is quite accurate. There's a few, but from my contacts in the hiring departments at two of the big 3, those with TPIC still make up the lion's share of civilian hiring.
Old 10-03-2017 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
I'm not sure the term "hordes" is quite accurate. There's a few, but from my contacts in the hiring departments at two of the big 3, those with TPIC still make up the lion's share of civilian hiring.
Haha yeah I know, man. Just ruffling Truthanator's feathers. Apparently anyone who doesn't accept the increasing trend of crappy QOL and low pay is a young millennial (despite that there are many of us not in our 20s like me who have a gripe as this company is literally making record profits by the day...stock went from $35 to $48 in literally one week).
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
Haha yeah I know, man. Just ruffling Truthanator's feathers. Apparently anyone who doesn't accept the increasing trend of crappy QOL and low pay is a young millennial (despite that there are many of us not in our 20s like me who have a gripe as this company is literally making record profits by the day...stock went from $35 to $48 in literally one week).
I think you meant to say literally one month. And it hasn't quite hit $48 but still crazy nonetheless!
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