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word302 10-10-2017 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight (Post 2444541)
Would you be willing to compare W2s with Endeavor after their TA passes? (it will pass)
What about with Air Wisconsin?
You are delusional if you honestly believe we are the at the top. We just passed a TA and we are still not the highest paid. In a few short months we will be right in the middle of the pack or worse.

Endeavor pilots have been making this much for over 3 years. Those bonuses are included on their W2s. They have been blowing us out of the water for years.

rickair7777 10-10-2017 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by sn00p (Post 2444843)
What left me with a death stare was flying with people that literally asked, “what more do you want, you work at a regional?”

Pointless. The regional system is designed from the ground up (well actually it somewhat evolved over time) to keep costs down. No amount of wailing, chest-beating, pontificating, unionizing, etc is going to change that.

It would take a national union with one list to break the whipsaw, but even then the ultimate result would be mainline absorbing some RJ flying and eliminating the rest.

You can fight epic battles for a few %... but x% of not much is still not much.

Trying to win a game that is rigged to begin with is tilting at windmills (Vegas would LOVE you guys). Better off playing a different game. The good news is that almost anyone will have the opportunity to move on soon.

word302 10-10-2017 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2444832)
That's exactly like it looks like from the outside looking in. Good post. Unfortunately, this last pay package has Skywest the laughing stock of the regional industry. I believe it could've/should've been much better. You're all worth much more

So did 44% of us. Sigh.

Duesenflieger 10-10-2017 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by EFBprobs (Post 2444838)
ORD CRJ FO here. The last thing I would ever want in this world is more flying. Please, for love of all things holy, stop sending airplanes to chicago. No more planes, we're drowning...pray for us!


I am CRJ ORD as well...I feel your pain. I just finished six days in a row of work, two days off, about to begin another five. I am a commuter too so when I get a schedule like this, it hurts.

RemoveB4Flight 10-10-2017 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2444850)
Endeavor pilots have been making this much for over 3 years. Those bonuses are included on their W2s. They have been blowing us out of the water for years.

I know they have. Unfortunately, company cheerleaders like amcnd
would refuse to acknowledge it by claiming it's a temporary bonus. Finally now they will be forced to count it as it is added to their hourly pay.

amcnd 10-11-2017 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight (Post 2444942)
I know they have. Unfortunately, company cheerleaders like amcnd
would refuse to acknowledge it by claiming it's a temporary bonus. Finally now they will be forced to count it as it is added to their hourly pay.

I may be “pro company” but im not under knowing we need to be matching pay with other regionals.. im just not “jumpie” like
You guy. Endeavor hasn’t even voted on it yet. And lets see what comes out of the October sapa meeting (going on right now).... give it time boys and girls...

Duesenflieger 10-11-2017 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2444986)
I may be “pro company” but im not under knowing we need to be matching pay with other regionals.. im just not “jumpie” like
You guy. Endeavor hasn’t even voted on it yet. And lets see what comes out of the October sapa meeting (going on right now).... give it time boys and girls...


Why should we accept any less than what everyone else is getting though? You owe it to your yourself and your family to make as much money as you can in your life. In the end, Chip, Mike, RJ and everyone in management are reaping the big bucks in while we minions slave away on their behalf as they laugh their a$$es off at our foolishness given how easy it was for them to procur yes-votes from us.


If you worry about SkyWest becoming bankrupt as a result of paying its pilots more, then consider that we just purchased forty E175s. SkyWest is one of the richest regionals in the history of aviation....

Mooneycfi 10-11-2017 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2444986)
I may be “pro company” but im not under knowing we need to be matching pay with other regionals.. im just not “jumpie” like
You guy. Endeavor hasn’t even voted on it yet. And lets see what comes out of the October sapa meeting (going on right now).... give it time boys and girls...

Give it time? Sapa meeting in October? The time was back in June. Oh ya, you gave us more time with your "yes" vote for five years.

amcnd 10-11-2017 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Mooneycfi (Post 2445040)
Give it time? Sapa meeting in October? The time was back in June. Oh ya, you gave us more time with your "yes" vote for five years.

Can’t change the past.. so forget about June... focus on the future.. For me thats let someone else deal with it. Im part of the lost 9/12 generation. And time to move on...

word302 10-11-2017 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2445045)
Can’t change the past.. so forget about June... focus on the future.. For me thats let someone else deal with it. Im part of the lost 9/12 generation. And time to move on...

So you hand them a **** sandwich? The idea is to make things better for those coming behind you. It’s called being a good human. I realize that’s lost on the majority.


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