Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2445073)

So you hand them a **** sandwich? The idea is to make things better for those coming behind you. It’s called being a good human. I realize that’s lost on the majority.

Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2445114)

No... all timing for me. Just worked out that way.. just like the guys before me that left and voted in the “deal me a ace” ect.. pattern will keep going and going. Keep your ear to Denver.. sapa meeting going on as we type. Or maybe your typing from it....

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2444852)

Pointless. The regional system is designed from the ground up (well actually it somewhat evolved over time) to keep costs down. No amount of wailing, chest-beating, pontificating, unionizing, etc is going to change that.

It would take a national union with one list to break the whipsaw, but even then the ultimate result would be mainline absorbing some RJ flying and eliminating the rest.

You can fight epic battles for a few %... but x% of not much is still not much.

Trying to win a game that is rigged to begin with is tilting at windmills (Vegas would LOVE you guys). Better off playing a different game. The good news is that almost anyone will have the opportunity to move on soon.

Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2444986)

I may be “pro company” but im not under knowing we need to be matching pay with other regionals.. im just not “jumpie” like

You guy. Endeavor hasn’t even voted on it yet. And lets see what comes out of the October sapa meeting (going on right now).... give it time boys and girls...

Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2445233)

Or there could be a pilot pay shortage and maybe a true pilot shortage if they don't start paying us better. And what helped that shortage? No national union, well other than ALPA, needed for that. Everyone is raising the bar, air Wisconsin, endeavor, AA wholly owned, etc. But it's pointless, right? There's a reason why every single regional pays a real sign on bonus (no type rating required, and real retention bonuses not tied to profits, hours worked, number of pilots) except for Skywest. The game has been re-rigged in our favor, now do something about it!




That's a nice sentiment. But you guys should be leading the pack, past compensation plus $1, at least. But every pay package sapa comes up with falls WAY short. So why would you expect anything different this time? Hopefully you are right.

Originally Posted by Duesenflieger (Post 2444517)

Exactly. I am on track to making $60k this year as an FO, and I checked to see what I would make as a senior ERJ FO, and I would make close to $65k - $70k year 3...not including bonuses. I will be upgrading though. I am thankful that I am at SkyWest and not at a burning dumpster fire like Endeavor.

Originally Posted by TimetoClimb (Post 2445266)

First year FO here with take home of 1030-1200 each paycheck with the cheapest medical I could get. Nowhere near trajectory towards those numbers year end.

Originally Posted by TimetoClimb (Post 2445266)

First year FO here with take home of 1030-1200 each paycheck with the cheapest medical I could get. Nowhere near trajectory towards those numbers year end.

Originally Posted by TimetoClimb (Post 2445266)

First year FO here with take home of 1030-1200 each paycheck with the cheapest medical I could get. Nowhere near trajectory towards those numbers year end.