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Check Complete 12-23-2017 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Mooneycfi (Post 2488236)
Why don't any of the Sapa representative candidates say whether they voted yes or no to the TA? Isn't that the main issue here? Like I don't care if they think skywest has the greatest pilots. I want to know how they voted. Were they yes voters? I'm specifically talking about region 3.

Because management (amcnd) would then know who voted against the company and they would be targeted. While there are some fantastic individuals as our reps the sad reality is SAPA represents the company to the pilots. Their hands are tied. When the VP of Ops tells me our current SAPA president is the best one we have ever had, that tells me he is not representing the pilots.

Also a pilot should be on line for at least a year before being eligible to vote.
The SAPA president went to all the new hire classes and did the hard sell.

It's time for change!

rickair7777 12-23-2017 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2488450)
Also a pilot should be on line for at least a year before being eligible to vote.

Yes.


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2488450)
The SAPA president went to all the new hire classes and did the hard sell.

The lifers are worried about having someone to swing their gear between now and retirement.


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2488450)
It's time for change!

Good luck.

Duesenflieger 12-23-2017 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2488450)
Because management (amcnd) would then know who voted against the company and they would be targeted. While there are some fantastic individuals as our reps the sad reality is SAPA represents the company to the pilots. Their hands are tied. When the VP of Ops tells me our current SAPA president is the best one we have ever had, that tells me he is not representing the pilots.

Also a pilot should be on line for at least a year before being eligible to vote.
The SAPA president went to all the new hire classes and did the hard sell.

It's time for change!

Seriously? Nothing will change here...EVER. And no one cares.

Focus on GTFO of here. Keep moving up. That right there constitutes our change.

Investing in changing a regional is like altering a mountainside into a pristine, robust city - it'll take a lot of resources and expense achieving that. Moving up and out to a better air carrier on the other hand is like traversing around the mountain range to reach the glistening city on the other side of the mountain next to the resource-rich river bank which has already been constructed and has a great, proven standard of living. Don't waste time on developing a mountain side. Circumnavigate it and head straight to the already established city on the leeward side on the shiny river bank.

Check Complete 12-23-2017 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Duesenflieger (Post 2488498)
Seriously? Nothing will change here...EVER. And no one cares.

Focus on GTFO of here. Keep moving up. That right there constitutes our change.

Ya, I know, don't know what I was thinking?

Unfortunately you are 10000% correct!

My new year's resolution is to get out!

Duesenflieger 12-23-2017 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2488501)
Ya, I know, don't know what I was thinking?

Unfortunately you are 10000% correct!

My new year's resolution is to get out!

GMTA. Me too. Good luck to both of us. Cheers :)

MidnightHauler 12-23-2017 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2488450)
Because management (amcnd) would then know who voted against the company and they would be targeted. While there are some fantastic individuals as our reps the sad reality is SAPA represents the company to the pilots. Their hands are tied. When the VP of Ops tells me our current SAPA president is the best one we have ever had, that tells me he is not representing the pilots.

Also a pilot should be on line for at least a year before being eligible to vote.
The SAPA president went to all the new hire classes and did the hard sell.

It's time for change!

Many new hires voted no.

WesternSkies 12-23-2017 05:42 PM

Everybody has their own opinion and that is fine, but I don’t care how a rep votes. I care if or if not a rep votes to send the package to the pilot group AND what was or was not in said package.

That said, I’ve heard a couple of reps announce publically that they voted no which is contrary to what I’ve read here.

Flogger 12-23-2017 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2488720)
Everybody has their own opinion and that is fine, but I don’t care how a rep votes. I care if or if not a rep votes to send the package to the pilot group AND what was or was not in said package.

That said, I’ve heard a couple of reps announce publically that they voted no which is contrary to what I’ve read here.

Reps?
Vote?
Do you people really believe you have some form of representation?

OMG!

Crack me up!

WesternSkies 12-23-2017 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 2488730)
Reps?
Vote?
Do you people really believe you have some form of representation?

OMG!

Crack me up!

I'll give that to ya.
With 19 years in the regional game, starting over at another regional probably makes people into a less friendly version of themselves.
Merry Christmas.

DirkDiggler 12-23-2017 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 2488730)
Reps?
Vote?
Do you people really believe you have some form of representation?

OMG!

Crack me up!

That's awesome. I see the "contract" word get thrown around quite a bit too. If Skywest decides to violate the so called 'handbook' there isn't anything the pilots can do. When push comes to shove that's when things will get interesting.


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