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word302 12-24-2017 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2488991)
You understand this response from you makes zero sense? Oh wait, maybe you don't.

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Where do you work again? I realize you have a very simple mind but I'm sure you can figure it out.

Turbosina 12-24-2017 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2489154)
Not quite as simple as yours...at least I have figured out how to be self-employed and work as much or as little as I wish, and a nice fat cushion to land on when I decide to not work anymore.

Your cushion is full of spilled coffee and farts.

It is my experience that those who boast the loudest about their income and net worth usually have very little of either.

Check Complete 12-24-2017 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by redbone (Post 2489049)
It's funny how when the company takes a **** on us it's just business. If you however decide to start playing games back you're considered an unethical POS. I'm of the accord that it's a two way street and have no remorse for outfoxing them.

The sad reality is though at SkyWest we are an "at will" employment status and the company can legally terminate you for no reason, legally none what so ever. They have in the past, they are doing so right now, and they will in the future. There is a reason the Management pays literally millions to not have a union. Their interests matter the most.

This is why I want representation!

word302 12-24-2017 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2489191)
Well, nice thing is your opinion matters not, and holds no water in this situation.

Except it would seem that everyone here holds the same opinion of you.

WingedIcarus 12-24-2017 09:43 PM

Merry Christmas
 
Merry Christmas everyone! Hope it's a good one.

rickair7777 12-25-2017 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2489190)
The sad reality is though at SkyWest we are an "at will" employment status and the company can legally terminate you for no reason, legally none what so ever. They have in the past, they are doing so right now, and they will in the future. There is a reason the Management pays literally millions to not have a union. Their interests matter the most.

This is not true. There are good reasons to consider representation but this isn't one of them.

For one thing "at will employment" is only boilerplate in company documents to scare employees. There is no such thing in America today. You have to have good reason to terminate someone AND that reason must be consistent with past practice with other employees. The later is typically a very good protection (have you seen DD's late-model porsche?).

SKW has removed two high-profile CP's for pushing the "at-will" boundaries.

Secondly they will only fire you if you're a repeat problem child, or get caught lying. You can make all the honest mistakes you want, just don't lie. I know people who should have been fired and weren't. They could have fired me once or twice, but they didn't. I called the boss, fessed up, and that was the end of it. Not even a carpet dance.

Now they do fire probies for one big strike (ex. sitting SFO reserve at Lake Tahoe, etc). But that's just like anywhere else, union can't help that. Some probies need to get fired, and some millenials need to see that happen to drive the point home that airline scheduling does NOT revolve around their personal life. That phenomenon is not just at SKW, happens at legacies too.

Check Complete 12-25-2017 08:06 AM

Rick,

How long and at what cost did it take DD to get retribution?

The company stood behind the CP that fired him at first.

And I think it's safe to say if all of us had real representation, it's highly likely none of DD's situation would have gone as far as it did.

There is an employee (well, former) right now, that is contesting his termination. His employment was terminated because the "at will" status was used.

I agree with you that "sometimes" the company will go soft on some huge screw ups. If you are a cheerleader, know the special handshake, and wear god given jammies, you can get away with about anything.

But if you are outspoken about management or critical of the company, you will get a target on your back, and there is absolutely nothing from stopping the company from terminating your "at will" employment!


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