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Bravix 11-29-2017 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2474025)
While we were understaffed worse in 2014, the remedy in 2018 wont be as easy as before.

Here comes a pay deal.

They are needing to pay up for dispatchers and mechanics too. Things in the regional world could get unstable very quickly.

If a pay deal is going to happen, then they better be quick about it. Before a certain something gains enough traction and prevents Inc. from even having that option in the short term. If it comes to a point where they need to raise pay to attract pilots, but are no longer legally able to, it could make things difficult.

word302 11-29-2017 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Bravix (Post 2474194)
If a pay deal is going to happen, then they better be quick about it. Before a certain something gains enough traction and prevents Inc. from even having that option in the short term. If it comes to a point where they need to raise pay to attract pilots, but are no longer legally able to, it could make things difficult.

That thing is still a loooong ways off.

rickair7777 11-29-2017 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bravix (Post 2474194)
If a pay deal is going to happen, then they better be quick about it. Before a certain something gains enough traction and prevents Inc. from even having that option in the short term. If it comes to a point where they need to raise pay to attract pilots, but are no longer legally able to, it could make things difficult.


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2474206)
That thing is still a loooong ways off.

Now might be a GREAT time to do that, if you're going to.

Lock status quo when the company really needs to attract new hires, and then hold FO pay rates hostage for the benefit of the rest of the group.

Possible risk that they might call the bluff and shrink rather than pony up.

Jonneaux 11-29-2017 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by JBirdE175 (Post 2474100)
The December Delta is not one of the SCs. It’s a straggler from the last order. None of the 30 new Deltas start coming until March. But you are correct, the first batch of Alaskas have begun. 3 are here with 2 more to come in Jan/Feb. And then another 10 later in 2018.

According to a certain ST of AAG we will be operating a total of 44 ERJ's for Alaska by the end of 2018. That's 9 more than have been officially announced.

EngineOut 11-29-2017 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2474015)
You can take my word for it. Staffing is SKW's biggest detriment to performance right now, PBS is giving out 100-hour lines and they still have minimal to no reserves in many places.

Do they have a long-term plan? But I sure hope they're being realistic about the fact that major hiring is just starting to warm up (and the military is going to have to stop their own bleeding soon...)

If they think their current MO is sustainable with additional big airplane orders and additional big major hiring, they're in for a big surprise.

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With all due respect, Rick, it depends on which fleet/base you are on right now. I would love a 100-hr line. In fact, I had never seen a MAX LINE VALUE: 7X.XX in my PBS reason report until I came to the 175. The highest credit I have ever been awarded is 78 hours, I believe...and I want more.

Shoot, I was finally getting used to the 100 hour lines in the CRJ!

The 175 is overstaffed, the CRJ is understaffed...don't be surprised if the CRJ folks get "Brasilia'd." Might already be happening in SEA.

EngineOut 11-29-2017 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Jonneaux (Post 2474313)
According to a certain ST of AAG we will be operating a total of 44 ERJ's for Alaska by the end of 2018. That's 9 more than have been officially announced.

What is an ST, Jonneaux?

Jonneaux 11-29-2017 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by EngineOut (Post 2474331)
What is an ST, Jonneaux?

The initials of the AAG representative who handles our contracts.

EngineOut 11-29-2017 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Jonneaux (Post 2474340)
The initials of the AAG representative who handles our contracts.

Ah...did not read that as a proper noun :)

maizeandblue 11-29-2017 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by EngineOut (Post 2474325)
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The 175 is overstaffed, the CRJ is understaffed...don't be surprised if the CRJ folks get "Brasilia'd." Might already be happening in SEA.

For the uninitiated, what does "Brasilia'd" mean?

NewGuy01 11-29-2017 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by maizeandblue (Post 2474354)
For the uninitiated, what does "Brasilia'd" mean?



So many inappropriate responses to this LOL


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