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Nevjets 11-29-2017 03:05 PM

Skywest v2.0
 

Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2474159)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/93156392



http://www.standard.net/Business/201...-about-to-drop


Thanks for that.


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2474217)
Now might be a GREAT time to do that, if you're going to.

Lock status quo when the company really needs to attract new hires, and then hold FO pay rates hostage for the benefit of the rest of the group.

Possible risk that they might call the bluff and shrink rather than pony up.



I was just going to say something to this effect. This is what I’ve been telling you guys for a long time. There is leverage to be had right now laying on the table free for you guys to seize it. But instead you guys agree to a 5 year low ball pay package.

Anyway, shrinkage is inevitable. Skywest has 53 aircraft on pro-rate agreements that only need 30-120 days notice of termination. That’s 600 pilot cushion.

KSCessnaDriver 11-29-2017 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2474385)
Thanks for that.





I was just going to say something to this effect. This is what I’ve been telling you guys for a long time. There is leverage to be had right now laying on the table free for you guys to seize it. But instead you guys agree to a 5 year low ball pay package.

Anyway, shrinkage is inevitable. Skywest has 53 aircraft on pro-rate agreements that only need 30-120 days notice of termination. That’s 600 pilot cushion.

Those 53 are mostly Delta CR2's are they not?

EngineOut 11-29-2017 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by maizeandblue (Post 2474354)
For the uninitiated, what does "Brasilia'd" mean?

Downsized and forced into "mainline" SkyWest.

StlLifer 11-29-2017 06:43 PM

Didn't Skywest lock in their profits for the next 5 years with that 1% raise? If they expand they risk all of that. Maybe they will get 100 new planes and give back 100 or 200?

amcnd 11-29-2017 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by StlLifer (Post 2474503)
Didn't Skywest lock in their profits for the next 5 years with that 1% raise? If they expand they risk all of that. Maybe they will get 100 new planes and give back 100 or 200?

They won’t give back any 200’s. Thry are the money makers now.. most paid off or on very cheap leases.. yes the 5 year pilot contract, allowed for the purchase of 100 aircraft, approved by the BOD....

Nevjets 11-29-2017 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2474392)
Those 53 are mostly Delta CR2's are they not?


They are both UAL and dal aircraft.


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2474507)
They won’t give back any 200’s. Thry are the money makers now.. most paid off or on very cheap leases.. yes the 5 year pilot contract, allowed for the purchase of 100 aircraft, approved by the BOD....


If they had to park any, their only choice are the pro-rate 200s that can be terminated with 30-120 days notice. Everything else is on a long term cpa. Maybe there are a handful that expire here and there.

amcnd 11-29-2017 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2474531)
They are both UAL and dal aircraft.




If they had to park any, their only choice are the pro-rate 200s that can be terminated with 30-120 days notice. Everything else is on a long term cpa. Maybe there are a handful that expire here and there.


Will revisit this in a year. But 45 years has shown that they haven’t had to do such “reductions”.. and the list keeps growing.. And a walk through the school house and FSI show full NH and CPT classes..

WesternSkies 11-29-2017 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bravix (Post 2474194)
If a pay deal is going to happen, then they better be quick about it. Before a certain something gains enough traction and prevents Inc. from even having that option in the short term. If it comes to a point where they need to raise pay to attract pilots, but are no longer legally able to, it could make things difficult.

In theory I agree that is all well and good but it hasn’t gone down that way in reality with any other pilot group.
Lawsuits, giant *new hire* bonuses, LOAs are everywhere anyway. Not to mention the guns stuck to the heads of 9e, Republic, PSA, horizon and Envoy of late, not to mention Asa/Xjet.

Both sides have a full arsenal they can deploy...or not.

rickair7777 11-30-2017 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2474541)
And a walk through the school house and FSI show full NH and CPT classes..


Full of what?

Nordopilot 11-30-2017 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2474656)
Full of what?

I'm guessing New Hires and Capt classes


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