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Check Complete 12-02-2017 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2476352)
Maybe your generation... not mine. I would spend more time and no beer.. take your job seriously... not the feed it to me mentality... if you want this Job you obviously worked hard to gwt this far. Work a little harder...


Thanks Dad...

amcnd 12-02-2017 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2476361)
Thanks Dad...

Your welcome... the new CBT’s are way better then the ones 10-15 years ago... they didn’t recycle and cheap out for once...

word302 12-02-2017 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2476330)
If you are going to tell me that it's better to learn aircraft systems sitting behind a computer in your underwear drinking a beer, then I'm going to have to disagree with you. I will agree with you about some of the pointless limitations being tested. Our cbt's simply suck, and many times they are incorrect. If that is going to be the knowledge base for some of these students, many of whom have never burned one drop of JetA, we are going to become very UN-safe.

Remember, many coming through the door today could be in the left seat in a few months, and upgrade is now only 4 full days in class.

This change was only to speed up the process and spend less on the student.

That’s not how it works. CBTs give you the baseline of knowledge. Ground school is still very systems-heavy.

WesternSkies 12-02-2017 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2476352)
Maybe your generation... not mine. I would spend more time and no beer.. take your job seriously... not the feed it to me mentality... if you want this Job you obviously worked hard to gwt this far. Work a little harder...

bull

Unless you can fabricate more hours in the day or cut your showers down, you can’t study more than the guys going through systems currently do.

jetprop420 12-02-2017 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2476223)
Most of the in classroom stuff has been regulated to indoc, CRM, and then the heavy koolaid drinking propaganda.

All the aircraft systems stuff you do on your own, something like 42 cbt's.

When we do the CBTs, do we "go home" for a specific time or hang in SLC?

MadDog80 12-02-2017 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by jetprop420 (Post 2476377)
When we do the CBTs, do we "go home" for a specific time or hang in SLC?

They gave us the option to go home but strongly encouraged that you stay, as do I. They don't really factor in travel time to the time they give you to complete the 40+ CBTs..

StlLifer 12-02-2017 09:18 PM

Why is SW so short of FOs currently? I know they are going to get 45 new Erj-175s next year. I read something where they just added 27 CRJs? Is that correct?

GiggidyGone 12-02-2017 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2476363)
That’s not how it works. CBTs give you the baseline of knowledge. Ground school is still very systems-heavy.



Not anymore it’s not actually. Strictly operational. On the CRJ side of the house. Just like ERJ is mainly operational. They aren’t diving deep into systems at all. At all. As of November. New class footprint


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WesternSkies 12-02-2017 10:17 PM

It’s not FOs specifically, but CA and FOs on the CRJ. Anyone bidding below 25-30% in base is being awarded lots of monthly flying.
It’s more of a massive growth pain than an attrition pain. SkyW grew by 50 pilots last month. (+100-50)

The 175 will probably experience issues next year as it is set to expand by 40-50% in 12 months.

On the CRJ side we all dodged a bullet when the 30 United 700s were placed with other carriers. Things would have come to a screeching halt. Instead of complaining about timing out, we would be complaining about being on reserve for 12 months and 4 year upgrades.
Meh

Green Needles 12-03-2017 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by StlLifer (Post 2476534)
Why is SW so short of FOs currently? I know they are going to get 45 new Erj-175s next year. I read something where they just added 27 CRJs? Is that correct?

Could it have something to do with the lousy pay they voted in for 5 years?


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