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Old 12-23-2018 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CA1900
Not funny!!! It’s probably next to the Monarch-Waikiki
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Old 12-25-2018 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
If a picture is worth a thousand words, this one should help explain why 10 year upgrades should soon/hopefully be a thing of the past

Attachment 4083
Idk unless the bottom falls out the guys at year 0 and 1 is about 4 years worth of upgrades alone
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Old 12-25-2018 | 07:09 AM
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The shocking part is the FOs in years 10-13. Probably close to 1000 pilots if you added them all up. Eventually they’ll all decide to switch seats. That will slow things down quite a bit.


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Old 12-25-2018 | 08:46 AM
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Whoever the FO is at year 24 is my new hero!
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Old 12-25-2018 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh
Whoever the FO is at year 24 is my new hero!

Ya gotta kind of respect him. Bids whatever vacation he wants. Whatever days off he wants. Whatever line he wants. Bids premium and charters without ever wondering if he will get it. All that plus 5 weeks of vacation that he easily turns into 15-20 weeks. If money or ego isn’t driving you to upgrade, then maybe this guy is on to something!


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Old 12-25-2018 | 09:39 AM
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Not all 20+ yr FO are by choice. I know a guy who couldn’t pass upgrade and sticks it out as senior FO.
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Old 12-25-2018 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Not all 20+ yr FO are by choice. I know a guy who couldn’t pass upgrade and sticks it out as senior FO.


That or can’t hold a first class medical. The retirees that are FOs are usually for this reason.
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Old 12-25-2018 | 10:26 AM
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Did that rule change? PIC were ATP with 1st class and SIC could have been Comm with 2nd class. Now everyone is ATP. Can FOs still just get a 2nd class every 12 mos for a 121 airline?
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Old 12-25-2018 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Did that rule change? PIC were ATP with 1st class and SIC could have been Comm with 2nd class. Now everyone is ATP. Can FOs still just get a 2nd class every 12 mos for a 121 airline?


Absolutely.
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Old 12-25-2018 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Did that rule change? PIC were ATP with 1st class and SIC could have been Comm with 2nd class. Now everyone is ATP. Can FOs still just get a 2nd class every 12 mos for a 121 airline?
Yes.

The captain is exercising the ATP during the flight hence the requirement.

Hiring requirements are different.
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