Upgrade times in the future?
12-21-2018 | 07:10 PM
#82
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Yep -- SWAPA website shows 392 Captain upgrades from 1 Jan thru 31 May; with a total of 588 for the year planned.
It also shows 500 new hires for the year with only 156 of them in the first 5 months.
Should help with the F/O overmanning.
It also shows 500 new hires for the year with only 156 of them in the first 5 months.
Should help with the F/O overmanning.
12-22-2018 | 01:42 PM
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According to myseniority.com, As a late 2015 hire I’m at 55% on the FO side.
There will be 900 pilots senior to me retiring in the next 5 years.
I’m just over 1600 from the plug captain spot.
For a 2015 hire, it’s reasonable that upgrades will be below 10 years.
There will be 900 pilots senior to me retiring in the next 5 years.
I’m just over 1600 from the plug captain spot.
For a 2015 hire, it’s reasonable that upgrades will be below 10 years.
12-22-2018 | 01:52 PM
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I’m an early 2017 hire. I do predict upgrades will come down below ten years. Glad to see significant upgrades planned for 2019.
I’ve still got LAX and OAK ETOPS captain slots at the top of my bid sheet. If, shockingly, it were to happen sooner rather than later I would move out there.
That said, I’d guess there will be LAS and PHX F/Os who will get this earlier because those commutes aren’t that tough I’d guess.
But I’ll take first available even if it’s flying odd schedules to Hawaii.
I’ve still got LAX and OAK ETOPS captain slots at the top of my bid sheet. If, shockingly, it were to happen sooner rather than later I would move out there.
That said, I’d guess there will be LAS and PHX F/Os who will get this earlier because those commutes aren’t that tough I’d guess.
But I’ll take first available even if it’s flying odd schedules to Hawaii.
12-22-2018 | 02:08 PM
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2014-2016 are in a good position, they benefited from the increasing ratio of pilots to airplanes. I'm predicting a 2015 hire will upgrade in 6-7 years. LAX is kind of a wildcard, if you are willing to take the seatlock I expect you would be able to upgrade 12-18 months earlier there then any other base.
However, the last pilot in what I consider the 2008-2010 bubble is still in the range of 800-900 numbers from the most junior captain, with almost 1000 bypassing FOs above them also. Upgrade in the near future will be no lower than ten years, with the strongly likelihood it will increase to 11-12 years.
However, the last pilot in what I consider the 2008-2010 bubble is still in the range of 800-900 numbers from the most junior captain, with almost 1000 bypassing FOs above them also. Upgrade in the near future will be no lower than ten years, with the strongly likelihood it will increase to 11-12 years.
12-22-2018 | 04:24 PM
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2014-2016 are in a good position, they benefited from the increasing ratio of pilots to airplanes. I'm predicting a 2015 hire will upgrade in 6-7 years. LAX is kind of a wildcard, if you are willing to take the seatlock I expect you would be able to upgrade 12-18 months earlier there then any other base.
However, the last pilot in what I consider the 2008-2010 bubble is still in the range of 800-900 numbers from the most junior captain, with almost 1000 bypassing FOs above them also. Upgrade in the near future will be no lower than ten years, with the strongly likelihood it will increase to 11-12 years.
However, the last pilot in what I consider the 2008-2010 bubble is still in the range of 800-900 numbers from the most junior captain, with almost 1000 bypassing FOs above them also. Upgrade in the near future will be no lower than ten years, with the strongly likelihood it will increase to 11-12 years.
12-22-2018 | 04:33 PM
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Upgrade times in the future?
Yeah no effing way I would take the seat lock and I commute from the central time zone. Those pairings look brutal for commutability. I have been to Hawaii. It’s cool, but I don’t care to go back without the family.
I would bypass for however long it takes.
If I lived out there, I would do it in a heartbeat. The open time opportunities that running a Hawaii operation on a SWA budget are going to produce are going to be epic. They may even pay your tax bill!
I would bypass for however long it takes.
If I lived out there, I would do it in a heartbeat. The open time opportunities that running a Hawaii operation on a SWA budget are going to produce are going to be epic. They may even pay your tax bill!
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