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Old 08-01-2019, 05:49 AM
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I’m a no vote without long call and non-contactability prior to a reserve assignment. 15 days off becomes 11 for commuters.

And no, I don’t choose to commute, I need to live where I am and work where I can. It’s one of the benefits of our profession.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:19 AM
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I’m a no vote without long call and non-contactability prior to a reserve assignment. 15 days off becomes 11 for commuters.

And no, I don’t choose to commute, I need to live where I am and work where I can. It’s one of the benefits of our profession.
spin it any way you want, but unless you are on parole and can't move, you choose to commute. You may not like the consequences, but you are free to move to domicile.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:29 AM
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First, you don’t know my situation. Second, commuting is an option, and for some a benefit, that shouldn’t be penalized.

We accept the pay cut that comes with commuting, but if the rules can be written that gives us as more time at home and still gives plenty of availability (like most airlines, even the bottom-feeder regionals) then my vote is yes.

We’re so over-staffed now that it could be done through more efficient scheduling alone.

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I agree that commuting should not be penalized.

that said, living in domicile has obvious benefits.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:35 AM
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I’m a no vote without long call and non-contactability prior to a reserve assignment. 15 days off becomes 11 for commuters.
The subset of commuters, who are on reserve, who think that long call is worth expending negotiating capital on is likely very small. Over a multi-decade career, how much of it are you forced to be on reserve?
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I’m a no vote without long call and non-contactability prior to a reserve assignment. 15 days off becomes 11 for commuters.
Do you actually answer the phone when they call you the day before you start reserve? If you do, the joke's on you...
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:24 AM
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My question would be what would the pairings look like overall to accommodate long call? More early start late finish for non-commuters? I’m asking honestly
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A high percentage of reserve assignments don't change before the trip pushes. Why not have 50% (or whatever) long call OR at least not have to come in for the RAP once a trip is assigned to a reserve? It wouldn't hurt scheduling one bit. As far as not spending negotiating capital on it, or "you choose to commute," or other such nonsense, half the pilots here commute. If you don't, good for you. But why should half of us care what your* opinion is because you self righteously claim "just move to a base like me"? There are almost 5000 reasons why guys don't take your advice. And it's standard throughout the business.

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My question would be what would the pairings look like overall to accommodate long call? More early start late finish for non-commuters? I’m asking honestly
Why would the pairing look any different from long call reserves? The company isn't going to make special pairings, then prevent them from being traded in ELITT so they can be assigned to reserves. Reserve holders get 3 kinds of trips here. Ugly trips that people traded out of in ELITT, trips that are called in sick on, and broken up/split trips to solve issues when the schedule is executed.
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Do you actually answer the phone when they call you the day before you start reserve? If you do, the joke's on you...
It's not about answering the phone the day before. It's about commuting into base to sit for 7 or 8 hours before the trip you were assigned pushes. It's archaic that we still have to do that ****.
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