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02-01-2020 | 02:14 PM

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Crockrocket95

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Who is against TFP raises?

02-01-2020 | 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crockrocket95

Who is against TFP raises?

A few people come to mind....

02-01-2020 | 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ackeight

They didn’t change the staffing model because they felt like it. It needed to change because of stage length and the increased utilization.

It’s hard to squeeze a flight in if you’re bumping up against 117 if our average stage lengths are well over 2 hours.

Complete hogwash.

02-01-2020 | 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by at6d

Premium? I checked ELITT last night. There are only two trips in it for the FO side in domicile. LOL premium. The 🦄 of five year FO life.

We literally have one trip in ELITT for this month. ONE!

02-01-2020 | 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ackeight

Averaging about 300 (9%)more flights/day. With over 2 hr legs it’s harder to stuff just 9% more pilots in. It needs to be a little more. Do you have the JA/unscheduled overnight info over the years?

we all do if you read the info the union puts out.
were going into negotiations and guys are bosting of how we make more tha we do, premium, and how it will all be gravy again. Just like how we negotiated last co tract at the going rate of 108tfp/month when guarantee is 89tfp.
come on guys dont sell yourself short already.

02-01-2020 | 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER

We literally have one trip in ELITT for this month. ONE!

Check LAX TTGA. Variety of stuff in there, a dozen or more still in ELITT, and netzero of 0. Some 4-day trips in TTGA for those who want to fly and want to maximize flying for their commute hassle.

02-01-2020 | 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hoover

Yup.... Setting us up for yet another industry lagging contract. Same as it ever was.....

02-01-2020 | 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by flensr

Check LAX TTGA. Variety of stuff in there, a dozen or more still in ELITT, and netzero of 0. Some 4-day trips in TTGA for those who want to fly and want to maximize flying for their commute hassle.

LAX doesn’t do squat for those of us in the eastern half of the country. LAX is an outlier. Ever since the ball has dropped with the overstaffing and MAX grounding, LAX consistently has more flying in Give Away. LAS and OAK are the same to a lesser extent.

I don’t get it. How can any of you be arguing that extra flying opportunities and trip productivity haven’t gone to complete $7!t. Guess we know who’ll be itching to vote “Yes” on TA1.

02-01-2020 | 05:12 PM

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And for the record I just checked LAX TTGA. There isn’t jack squat in there. Worse than other bases in fact.

The bottom line is that we either need a drastic increase in TFP rates or in min guarantee if this “new norm” is here to stay.