FleetSnarl

Unfortunately, our negotiating environment is not governed by a free-for-all capitalist dynamic. It is regulated by the terms of the Railway Labor Act.

Under the auspices of the RLA, the courts have established the parameters of industry-standard or industry-average as important legal benchmarks.

So, you could say something like, “You know what, instead of paid uniforms and dry cleaning and paid parking and all of that other ancillary stuff, I calculated that I could but that on the open market by myself for X dollars. So, I want X dollars on top of my industry-leading pay rate instead of the company providing those things.”

It wouldn’t be impossible, but it’d make the negotiation (needlessly) more complex since providing for those things in that way is not standard in this industry. It would also open up the possibility that we settle for less compensation in lieu of those ancillary items than is required to purchase them on the open market (kind of like the situation with our FAA flight physical reimbursement right now).

First job (and not an easy one) would be to get the other side to agree to our valuation of those items. Then, we’d have to get them to agree to pay us that much more. Do those things simply get added into our pay rate or are we reimbursed or are we given an allowance or something else? That’s a set up for failure and for longer, more dragged-out negotiations.

When we negotiate in terms of what is industry standard, it creates apples to apples comparisons and makes the areas where we fall short that much more clear to both parties and to the NMB. It increases the chance of obtaining wins for our pilot group.

Air Stang 7

We need to make contractual language that guarantees electric outlets next to the beds industry standard.

Psycho18th

Hadn't considered how that impacts negotiating. Very insightful. Thank you.

Zard

and not those hotdog in a hallway outlets, either, where the charger falls out onto the floor right after you turn out the lights.

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tm602

So getting back on target...about 80K first year and slightly over $120K year two is what to expect.

CA1900

Depends a bit on how much you work. My first year gross was about $94K, second year about $136K. That was typically working an extra day or two per month over my scheduled line, so around 15 days a month.

Avsafety414

How long to be around 180k? Working an awarded schedule

Wildturkey

15k a month at min guarantee is about year 7 pay. At that seniority that’s 20 plus days off awarded.

LaunchMcQuack

Mix of year 9 and 10 First Officer pay under current contract. This is working minimum contractual guarantee. That doesn’t include per diem, profit sharing or direct contribution.

Legitimate math was used to calculate that and not pilot math.