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Old 06-29-2020, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...ronavirus.html

I was going to say it depends on the mask you have. Key is in layers of your mask.
did not know the nanometer size of a fart. That's cool. I'd say as soon as you take that mask off to drink, eat, scratch your nose, talk, breath, or falls off it's all for not. Also what constitutes as a mask is a pretty far range. And that article was talking about an N95 Mask. And assuming that fart has hopefully already made it through two layers of clothes.

Here's a good. Peer reviewed article about the efficacy of masks. Basically cloth is zero % effective. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191274/
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Please ignore the smarta... remarks above. To answer your question: Southwest policy is all passengers and crew members are required to wear the masks correctly for the entire duration of the flight, including boarding and deplaning. The exceptions are young children and passengers with medical issues preventing them from wearing masks. Passengers are also allowed to momentarily take them off while eating and drinking. I've deadheaded several times recently and have to tell that overwhelming majority of passengers are complying with the policy. Once in a while there is a jacka.. who wants to showcase his "toughness", ignorance, or political opinion by refusing to put on the mask. They usually put it on while mumbling incoherently when presented an option to leave if they don't wanna comply.
Bottom line, everyone is welcome to fly on our airline when following these simple rules and employee's instructions. You can also be assured you will have an empty seat next to you. Also, please don't get discouraged by idiotic responses, they are voices of a minority and usually come from people with political agenda or those who miss the concept of reality.
indeed, it does sound like someone has a political agenda.
Truth be told, cases up, deaths down. Herd immunity is happening. Not saying NOT to wear the mask, but it does delay us getting thru this. The faster we get the antibodies, the better for us all.
to the OP: THANKS for flying swa! I can assure you that we welcome your business and we will comply with our company's requests to ensure the safety of all of our guests and to make all feel welcome.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:23 PM
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did not know the nanometer size of a fart. That's cool. I'd say as soon as you take that mask off to drink, eat, scratch your nose, talk, breath, or falls off it's all for not. Also what constitutes as a mask is a pretty far range. And that article was talking about an N95 Mask. And assuming that fart has hopefully already made it through two layers of clothes.

Here's a good. Peer reviewed article about the efficacy of masks. Basically cloth is zero % effective. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191274/
However... all coverings block most if not all your droplets from speaking or a cough. The virus is said to be attached to those droplets. It’s not 100% protection obviously but it is a high percentage.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:59 AM
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However... all coverings block most if not all your droplets from speaking or a cough. The virus is said to be attached to those droplets. It’s not 100% protection obviously but it is a high percentage.
I wear a neck gaiter at work, and that’s barely tolerable. I can feel my breath through the mask. Sure it blocks some but it’s worthless for viruses and there purely for psychological effect. Wore it for the 2.5 hr dhd this week. Guy next to me had his pulled below his chin the whole flight watching a movie. Nobody said anything to him.
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Old 06-30-2020, 06:14 AM
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I wear a neck gaiter at work, and that’s barely tolerable. I can feel my breath through the mask. Sure it blocks some but it’s worthless for viruses and there purely for psychological effect. Wore it for the 2.5 hr dhd this week. Guy next to me had his pulled below his chin the whole flight watching a movie. Nobody said anything to him.

I don't think it's entirely psychological. Although the virus itself is too small to be filtered by most masks, they are generally traveling on moisture from exhaled air, coughs, sneezes, etc. Since you can feel your breath, it sounds as though your gaiter is effectively trapping that moisture and blocking at least some of it from reaching other people. If they too are wearing a mask is doubles that protection.

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Old 06-30-2020, 06:29 AM
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I am really not trying to stoke the mask fire, but the value of the mask (seems) not that it 'filters' the virus from the air, but rather stops droplets which tend to be the actual vector of the virus.

The below experiment's result explains the mask rationale as it relates to capturing respiratory droplets.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800

As someone mentioned, I'm sure that taking off your mask to eat or drink briefly increases your risk of infection, but because you hopefully are not removing your mask immediately after someone in your near vicinity coughed or talked sans mask, the risk of there being a high concentration of 'droplet nuclei' in your area is reduced.

Remember, getting infected is heavily depending on viral load...chances are all of us have come into contact with a few Covid virus molecules floating in the air but because the load was so low, our body just quickly fought or it simply died (the nose does a fairly good job protecting us from pathogens already) before it had a chance to start replicating in any large numbers. Other experiments have shown how droplets and droplet nuclei contain a much higher viral load and much more often result in an infection.
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Old 06-30-2020, 07:05 AM
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I am really not trying to stoke the mask fire, but the value of the mask (seems) not that it 'filters' the virus from the air, but rather stops droplets which tend to be the actual vector of the virus.

The below experiment's result explains the mask rationale as it relates to capturing respiratory droplets.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800

As someone mentioned, I'm sure that taking off your mask to eat or drink briefly increases your risk of infection, but because you hopefully are not removing your mask immediately after someone in your near vicinity coughed or talked sans mask, the risk of there being a high concentration of 'droplet nuclei' in your area is reduced.

Remember, getting infected is heavily depending on viral load...chances are all of us have come into contact with a few Covid virus molecules floating in the air but because the load was so low, our body just quickly fought or it simply died (the nose does a fairly good job protecting us from pathogens already) before it had a chance to start replicating in any large numbers. Other experiments have shown how droplets and droplet nuclei contain a much higher viral load and much more often result in an infection.
Good post, thank you.
Please leave your opinions to yorself when on the job. Do what the company asks you (wear masks correctly when at work among passengers and other employees - and that includes overnight hotels). It's a small inconvenience to you, but it shows to others that you are a considerate person and care about others. It's that simple.
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by barabek View Post
Good post, thank you.
Please leave your opinions to yorself when on the job. Do what the company asks you (wear masks correctly when at work among passengers and other employees - and that includes overnight hotels). It's a small inconvenience to you, but it shows to others that you are a considerate person and care about others. It's that simple.
what? Wear my mask on overnights because it makes others feel better? No thanks. I follow the rules set by the company but I really dont care if I make someone feel better on an overnight if I'm in my own time.
That being said I dont hang out with others if they are part of the mask crowd. To each their own. They'll do them and I do me on my own time
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what? Wear my mask on overnights because it makes others feel better? No thanks. I follow the rules set by the company but I really dont care if I make someone feel better on an overnight if I'm in my own time.
That being said I dont hang out with others if they are part of the mask crowd. To each their own. They'll do them and I do me on my own time
I said hotels, common courtesy. If you are in uniform, wear the mask, that includes the hotel lobbies and vans. That's pretty much company policy and common sense. When you put civilian clothes on, do what you want. And trust me, you don't have to hang out with mask wearing crowd, whatever that means to you. I'm sure your Maga hat will scare everyone away anyways.
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Originally Posted by barabek View Post
I said hotels, common courtesy. If you are in uniform, wear the mask, that includes the hotel lobbies and vans. That's pretty much company policy and common sense. When you put civilian clothes on, do what you want. And trust me, you don't have to hang out with mask wearing crowd, whatever that means to you. I'm sure your Maga hat will scare everyone away anyways.
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