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Old 07-22-2022, 02:07 PM
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It does baffle me why this is such a hard concept at SW. I'm rarely ever uncomfortable tenp wise on other carriers.
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Old 07-22-2022, 02:24 PM
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It does baffle me why this is such a hard concept at SW. I'm rarely ever uncomfortable tenp wise on other carriers.
Oh I know, and Ive done it before... I just don't know why we have such a crazy ideal jammed into long time WN guys that they have to save fuel at the expense of cooking people.
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Old 07-22-2022, 03:19 PM
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Apologies for interrupting but I have a hiring question.

Theres been a rumour going round my European airline for the best part of a year that Southwest will soon be opening recruitment to foreign pilots and even sponsoring them for immigration. I even heard today that it’s all but a done deal, they just need to persuade the unions. Any truth or just wishful thinking?
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Old 07-22-2022, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by am111 View Post
Apologies for interrupting but I have a hiring question.

Theres been a rumour going round my European airline for the best part of a year that Southwest will soon be opening recruitment to foreign pilots and even sponsoring them for immigration. I even heard today that it’s all but a done deal, they just need to persuade the unions. Any truth or just wishful thinking?
Burton78, just found something else for you to complain about….
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Old 07-22-2022, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by am111 View Post
Theres been a rumour going round my European airline for the best part of a year that Southwest will soon be opening recruitment to foreign pilots and even sponsoring them for immigration. I even heard today that it’s all but a done deal, they just need to persuade the unions. Any truth or just wishful thinking?
Don't see it. Southwest is a slow moving company, don't expect anything radical from them. They will hire lower time pilots with right to work in the USA already and Destination 225 program will be expanded before sponsoring overseas pilots.

I don't see how SWAPA could prevent it however. There's no language about who SWA can hire.
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Old 07-23-2022, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Proximity View Post
Don't see it. Southwest is a slow moving company, don't expect anything radical from them. They will hire lower time pilots with right to work in the USA already and Destination 225 program will be expanded before sponsoring overseas pilots.

I don't see how SWAPA could prevent it however. There's no language about who SWA can hire.
Thanks for the reply. Figured it was probably too good to be true. Seems like SW haven’t exhausted all their options stateside yet. Wonder if it’s another airline working on it and we’ve got a case of Chinese whispers. Interesting that SWAPA wouldn’t be able to stop it if it were true. Could the general APA be lobbying Washington to keep the international avenue closed or is that outside of their remit?
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Old 07-24-2022, 05:03 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Figured it was probably too good to be true. Seems like SW haven’t exhausted all their options stateside yet. Wonder if it’s another airline working on it and we’ve got a case of Chinese whispers. Interesting that SWAPA wouldn’t be able to stop it if it were true. Could the general APA be lobbying Washington to keep the international avenue closed or is that outside of their remit?
I don't see how any union could prevent a company from hiring someone who is legal to work in the United States and has the requisite FAA certifications. As for Southwest, it would not surprise me if they are exploring all options as the supply of US pilots is expected to get pretty tight in the next few years. Classes are full today, but they are inviting 40 to fill a class of 30 which means we'll get to the bottom of the list that much sooner.
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Old 07-24-2022, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by am111 View Post
Apologies for interrupting but I have a hiring question.

Theres been a rumour going round my European airline for the best part of a year that Southwest will soon be opening recruitment to foreign pilots and even sponsoring them for immigration. I even heard today that it’s all but a done deal, they just need to persuade the unions. Any truth or just wishful thinking?
SWA recently did participate in a FordHarrison airline labor and employment symposium, where one of the topics addressed was the recruitment and hiring of foreign pilots. So, it’s definitely on their radar.
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Old 07-25-2022, 09:36 AM
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Company took out the chief pilot review already. So anything is possible. They just want pilots. They don’t care if they are the right fit or not.
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Old 07-25-2022, 10:47 AM
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Company took out the chief pilot review already. So anything is possible. They just want pilots. They don’t care if they are the right fit or not.
Right fit for who/what? This airline hasn't been run by Flight Ops for some time now. A conspiracy theorist might say this is a well-orchestrated plan to get pilots in the door that won't rock the boat by picketing and demanding a top tier contract. Now you might argue that this is the same company that can't plan itself out of a wet paper bag, which I would agree with 100% in terms of front line operations. But the behind the scenes: HR and lawyers running the show, profits over people decisions from upper management. I don't think those things are by accident.
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