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Old 03-02-2022 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Things will be different this time! You'll see!! The 1,221 and SWAPA 2.0 and stuff!!! And a pilot shortage!!!!!

Ya, I'm jaded. I really do hope it is different this time. But having seen this pilot group in action over many years, I've learned SAIEW is how it goes around here.
well, guys fresh off IOE are already getting JAd. After finishing assigned trips in other bases…so I think the kool aid bowl is going to dry up quickly with these new hires just as it did with the 1221.
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Old 03-02-2022 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
well, guys fresh off IOE are already getting JAd. After finishing assigned trips in other bases…so I think the kool aid bowl is going to dry up quickly with these new hires just as it did with the 1221.
but isnt that JA paid at yr 2 rates? #winning
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Old 03-02-2022 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
but isnt that JA paid at yr 2 rates? #winning
One lesson this this pilot group has never learned, is that money isn’t everything. There’s no price you can put on promises broken to a spouse or child.

The next CBA desperately needs a mechanism to opt IN or opt OUT of future extensions or JA. We also need a mechanism within CWA to automatically put JAs in giveaway (with pay reflected correctly), and send text alerts to interested bidders. And to make them more attractive, JAs need to pay double time on what you fly OR DOUBLE TIME ON THE RIGS, which ever is greater!

Until it is just as easy to fly LESS as it is to fly MORE, we can’t brag about industry leading flexibility. Some of us work to live…as opposed to those who live to work.
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Old 03-02-2022 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
One lesson this this pilot group has never learned, is that money isn’t everything. There’s no price you can put on promises broken to a spouse or child.

The next CBA desperately needs a mechanism to opt IN or opt OUT of future extensions or JA. We also need a mechanism within CWA to automatically put JAs in giveaway (with pay reflected correctly), and send text alerts to interested bidders. And to make them more attractive, JAs need to pay double time on what you fly OR DOUBLE TIME ON THE RIGS, which ever is greater!

Until it is just as easy to fly LESS as it is to fly MORE, we can’t brag about industry leading flexibility. Some of us work to live…as opposed to those who live to work.
or have no JAs allowed period. Company can offer double or triple time to get people to work. If no one picks it up flight is cancelled.
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Old 03-02-2022 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
well, guys fresh off IOE are already getting JAd. After finishing assigned trips in other bases…so I think the kool aid bowl is going to dry up quickly with these new hires just as it did with the 1221.
Just wait till summer, it will be must to pack for 6 days every trip.
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Old 03-02-2022 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
or have no JAs allowed period. Company can offer double or triple time to get people to work. If no one picks it up flight is cancelled.
Amazing how little JA’s went on during the 200% MOU.
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Old 03-02-2022 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
One lesson this this pilot group has never learned, is that money isn’t everything. There’s no price you can put on promises broken to a spouse or child.

The next CBA desperately needs a mechanism to opt IN or opt OUT of future extensions or JA. We also need a mechanism within CWA to automatically put JAs in giveaway (with pay reflected correctly), and send text alerts to interested bidders. And to make them more attractive, JAs need to pay double time on what you fly OR DOUBLE TIME ON THE RIGS, which ever is greater!

Until it is just as easy to fly LESS as it is to fly MORE, we can’t brag about industry leading flexibility. Some of us work to live…as opposed to those who live to work.
Oh yes. That'd be nice.

But remember, despite all the bluster about "The Platform" being a solid floor and despite every BOD member signing a letter declaring that they'd settle for nothing less than The Platform, we settled for roughly $1.1 Billion (with a "B") less than The Platform.

Mediation hasn't even been entered into yet.

And the company is "comfortable" with the existing language.

Maybe if our pilot group was filled with Ukrainians, we'd have a shot. But it's not.
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Old 03-03-2022 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
Just wait till summer, it will be must to pack for 6 days every trip.
7. Deadheading on an "unforeseen" and "unscheduled" overnight isn't FDP.
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