Casually mentioned by a BOD rep OTOF is the fact that our three SWAPA executives (President, VP, and Second VP) all had dinner recently with BoJo and A-Watt.

Huh? What the fudge? Come again?

Is this a gateway to salmon fishing trips to Alaska?

Was this an opportunity to work some good ol’ boy Texas magic on our SWAPA leadership?

Is it simply a coincidence that this dinner occurred and then SWAPA is talking about “A Shift”?

The smoke signals (another example: how very little our SWAPA execs and committee members have flown over the last many years) coming out of Empire Central are not looking promising. They’re looking industry-lagging - again.

 

As far as the dinner goes, I think you’re reading too much into it. It’s yet another way to express in detail the frustration of our pilots and the disaster that is our operation without the middle managers and Carl getting in the way of direct and honest communication between our top leaders and the company’s.

As for the history of fishing trip handshakes at SWA……I’m well aware of it and not too concerned about it (yet).

 

IMO, the evidence is mounting that this SWAPA does not truly intend to deliver us an industry-leading contract. Ever since I’ve been here, the mantra has been to “Trust SWAPA.” In each case, the evidence was later discovered that SWAPA should never have been trusted.

“Trust SWAPA, trust SWAPA, trust SWAPA,” until it’s too late and the next six- to ten-year industry-lagging contract is hung around our necks. It has happened every time, including the 2016 Weaks Special that we’re currently hating (and for which our current Prez was NC Chair).

Ignore the smoke signals at your own (and our own) peril. History has taught us that it hasn’t been a good move to do so. But I guess we’re gonna need to slam our head into the wall a couple or three more times before we might learn.

When Casey AIP’s this contract and tells everyone, “Best we could do,” it’s gonna be too late to realize we were all sold a bill of goods for the last several years about C2020.

 

Look at CMs past work. I’ve been very underwhelmed by him.

 

Lew, this meeting is a good thing. It wasn’t until after swapa met with GK and the execs in 2016 that we started to see movement on that contract. That meeting exposed Babbit and Russel as the irrational obstructionists they were and cast a light on their misleading communications to both the pilot group and upper management. It also cast swapa in a very positive light as they had a more thorough picture on the company finances than most of the VP’s and they were invited back to several more meetings with the CFO that showed swapa’s asks were both reasonable AND affordable.

Casey has also demanded that swapa (and by extension the schedule research cmtee) be included in the discussions on the meltdown. This is NOT the same as TD, CK, and a few others going around swapa to tell the company the minimum the pilot group would accept on a potential TA as happened last contract cycle.

Now, if Casey and the swapa VP’s are having dinner with Bob on a weekly basis, meeting outside of the office, meeting outside business hours, going on golfing outings, hunting trips, traveling to destination spots etc. I’ll be first in line to call foul. Right now though there are lots of reasons they should be talking.

 

That “movement” in 2016 you speak of after SWAPA met with GK ended up resulting in the current near industry-bottom turd we’re operating under. But 84% of our guys were fine with it at the time because, “If it’s good enough for Jon Weaks and SWAPA, it’s good enough for me.”

I s’pose the only thing different about the refrain we’ll be hearing this time around will be, “If it’s good enough for Casey Murray and SWAPA, it’s good enough for me.”

Maybe we’ll learn in three or four decades.

 

Lew

Look how many cannot be bothered to wear a lanyard, we are beyond being a last tier airline .

 

It wasn't industry bottom when it was ratified. Our work rules are still near the top of the industry. Pay is lagging now , but everyone else ratified after we did. This go around, everyone else ratified before us so if we vote in lagging rates....it's on us. I was new in 2016 and didn't know our disability was as bad as it is....it was better than the regional I came from (we didn't have any) and nobody bothered to tell me otherwise. This go around, they're gonna have to pay up if they want my vote and to keep butts in seats.

 

I'd rather be here than most any other place. Until your CP calls you and tells you to unring a fatigue call and finish what scheduling told you to do....don't give me that BS about last tier airline. People are frustrated and ****ed and rightfully so....but you're insane if you think we're a bottom feeding airline.

 

Seek help!!!!!! By all of your posts it is evident that you are past the point of no return. Anonymous posts are awesome, but I hope someone checks on you!! Make sure you open the garage door after you start your car tomorrow.