Pilot attrition finally acknowledged…
04-27-2023 | 08:00 AM
#21
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Herb wasn't around for the last 2, but the answer to that question, every time, is that the pilot group was perfectly happy accepting industry lagging contracts.
Apparently, the polling data (right before the last one was put out for a vote) indicated that pilot group, as planned, had succumbed to negotiation fatigue, hence a TA2 that fell around $1B short of our minimum ask. The upside was that we actually netted some major improvements, (instead of conceding stuff with nothing in return),which hadn't happened since 2002.
The results speak for themselves, and sadly, I fear it will be repeated this time around.
The results of the SAV will be telling.
04-27-2023 | 08:54 AM
#22
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From: cpt 737
Southwest says Boeing’s aircraft delays will force the airline to scale back hiring plans
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/27/sout...est%20airlines
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/27/sout...est%20airlines
They are way behind now and attrition ain't great so I dont see why they should come off their plan.
This way if they get an opportunity to grab more planes or open a new market they dont have a 6+ month wait on pilots.
I can care less about being overstaffed and no premium. Pay me what I'm worth and I wont have to pick anything up
04-27-2023 | 11:11 AM
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He’d be an idiot to slow pilot hiring. I could care less about Ops agents, HDQ employees, etc.
Hire enough rampers to keep the operation moving and get fat on pilots til you get your head out of your rear end. We have around 60 planes sitting every day…use those and build lines that aren’t block heavy so we can get a break from the fatiguing schedules.
Hire enough rampers to keep the operation moving and get fat on pilots til you get your head out of your rear end. We have around 60 planes sitting every day…use those and build lines that aren’t block heavy so we can get a break from the fatiguing schedules.
04-27-2023 | 11:39 AM
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There's a story floating around about an instructor whose time came to interview for a pilot position. The company denied it said they couldn't afford to lose him as an instructor. So he went and interviewed with AA, and starts class soon if not already. So they (SWA) lost both a current instructor and potential pilot all in one fell swoop. #winning
It sounds like SWA is intent on copying the military on this exact employee retention issue. The path they've chosen is guaranteed to lose employees and millions of dollars of training/experience will keep walking out the door as long as they keep it up.
04-27-2023 | 11:46 AM
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If they were genuinely interested in being more efficient at getting planes off the gate (and freeing the ops agents up!), they could start by eliminating 95% of the busy-work and paper pushing that the ops agents have to do. We have cellular-enabled iPads in every cockpit. The fact that they still aren't leveraging that connectivity for anything operational absolutely blows my mind. (My Hawaii weather packet the other day was so thick it had to be stapled in three separate stacks. I looked at exactly none of it.)
04-27-2023 | 12:53 PM
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Curious if I still have a shot. Just hit 500 turbine, no previous failures, 4 intervals, and a handful of external rec’s. Saw SWA will be slowing down how many pilots they bring on. Still worth a shot? Planning to attend the PAPA expo in may and meet with the SWA recruiters.
04-27-2023 | 01:29 PM
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If they were genuinely interested in being more efficient at getting planes off the gate (and freeing the ops agents up!), they could start by eliminating 95% of the busy-work and paper pushing that the ops agents have to do. We have cellular-enabled iPads in every cockpit. The fact that they still aren't leveraging that connectivity for anything operational absolutely blows my mind. (My Hawaii weather packet the other day was so thick it had to be stapled in three separate stacks. I looked at exactly none of it.)
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