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Old 05-23-2023 | 05:49 PM
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Glad I'm not the only one with this question. I think it's the nature of this forum though. I've got 10 good friends that I've worked with that are now at SWA and say they absolutely love it and have no plans on going anywhere else. I got a Delta interview but tbh I've never been interested in Delta or their culture and I don't anticipate the interview to change my mind on that.

I'm really looking forward to starting, but only time will tell who's experience is more accurate, the nay sayers on the forums or my friends.
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:16 PM
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As of today 5/23/23 118 Plumbers Have Left SWA Since January 2023 and 189 Have Left SWA Since December 2021. That should tell you something.
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tman3555
Glad I'm not the only one with this question. I think it's the nature of this forum though. I've got 10 good friends that I've worked with that are now at SWA and say they absolutely love it and have no plans on going anywhere else. I got a Delta interview but tbh I've never been interested in Delta or their culture and I don't anticipate the interview to change my mind on that.

I'm really looking forward to starting, but only time will tell who's experience is more accurate, the nay sayers on the forums or my friends.

don’t use the word culture. Culture is some BS floated by corporate accountant ghouls to pay their cost units less. Go to delta and get paid. Life on the line at SWA sucks.

I’ve been her 5 years and I’m updating my apps.
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:20 PM
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Is SW really that bad is the wrong question

Are UA/DL/AA better is the question

This is like “i can get a new car or a 1yo car for the same price, which should i pick” kinda question
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tman3555
Glad I'm not the only one with this question. I think it's the nature of this forum though. I've got 10 good friends that I've worked with that are now at SWA and say they absolutely love it and have no plans on going anywhere else. I got a Delta interview but tbh I've never been interested in Delta or their culture and I don't anticipate the interview to change my mind on that.

I'm really looking forward to starting, but only time will tell who's experience is more accurate, the nay sayers on the forums or my friends.

If you like staying at Holiday Inn Hotels then SWA is the place for you.

If you like paying for your own airport parking and uniforms then SWA is the place for you.

If you like having an industry lagging Short Term and Long Term Disability then SWA is the place for you.

If you like being treated like a second class citizen when you go out on medical then SWA is the place for you.

If you like having to carry a food bag or like getting gouged buying airport food then SWA is the place for you.

If your like Long days 4-5 legs a day and short overnights then SWA is the place for you.

If your like being JA'ed into your days off then SWA is the place for you.

If you like having your Profit sharing check cut in half while the executives all give themselves bonuses then SWA is the place for you.

If you like having to picket because its been 994 days since your contract became amendable then SWA is the place for you.

If you like making less salary and less 401k contributions than your buddies at the big 3 then SWA is the place for you.

If you like being demoralized with constant meltdowns then SWA is the place for you.

If you like being threatened with Furlough Warn Notices just before Christmas and a few months later have those very leaders receive 10 million in bonuses then SWA is the place for you.


Strap in because once the CULTure Kool aid wears off you and your buddies will be kicking yourselves for not going to Delta.
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FL37
I’ve been a lurker on these threads for awhile. I’m a mil guy so I’m learning my way in the 121 world. I know it’s contract negotiation time, but some of the posts have me really second guessing coming here. I have CJOs from a few legacies and SW. The majority of SW pilots I know are good people and generally happy being there. I know December was bad, but is the company really on a death spiral as some on here would have you believe? SWAPA absolutely crushes the company on social media. I know a lot of that is part of getting a new contract, but it’s tough not to read what they have to say and question a decision to come here.
I remember reading Delta threads before they got a contract and it was similar. Now it’s happy days at widget. I always thought of SW as great company, but I don’t want to go to a sinking ship.
No, it isn’t. I’m less than a year on property, I live in base, have weekends off, credit 110-115 without even trying, 15-16 days off per month. The flip side is first year pay is pretty bad and the duty days can get long. Being on reserve is a matter of when, not if. A new contract, work rules and other QOL improvements would make life better here. With that said, I have no intention on jumping ship. Most who do, have a desire to fly wide body long haul flights, not 3, 4 or 5 legs a day. I voted yes for the SAV.
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
No, it isn’t. I’m less than a year on property, I live in base, have weekends off, credit 110-115 without even trying, 15-16 days off per month. The flip side is first year pay is pretty bad and the duty days can get long. Being on reserve is a matter of when, not if. A new contract, work rules and other QOL improvements would make life better here. With that said, I have no intention on jumping ship. Most who do, have a desire to fly wide body long haul flights, not 3, 4 or 5 legs a day. I voted yes for the SAV.
So you're getting weekends off on reserve, there is a reason for that.
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
No, it isn’t. I’m less than a year on property, I live in base, have weekends off, credit 110-115 without even trying, 15-16 days off per month. The flip side is first year pay is pretty bad and the duty days can get long. Being on reserve is a matter of when, not if. A new contract, work rules and other QOL improvements would make life better here. With that said, I have no intention on jumping ship. Most who do, have a desire to fly wide body long haul flights, not 3, 4 or 5 legs a day. I voted yes for the SAV.
Everyone is jumping ship to make more money!
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tman3555
Glad I'm not the only one with this question. I think it's the nature of this forum though. I've got 10 good friends that I've worked with that are now at SWA and say they absolutely love it and have no plans on going anywhere else. I got a Delta interview but tbh I've never been interested in Delta or their culture and I don't anticipate the interview to change my mind on that.

I'm really looking forward to starting, but only time will tell whose experience is more accurate, the nay sayers on the forums or my friends.
You might be very surprised at how Delta presents itself, I was. I don’t believe in the whole culture thing but I do recognize a professional organization and appearance. My time at the interview was professional, I met great people, I enjoyed the process (while long), and felt an accomplishment when getting thru to the other side. They take their outward appearance to applicants seriously and the process was well laid out. Take culture out the equation and attempt a fact based analysis of the two companies and where you land in them. Then you can make an educated decision. For some it will be to stay, and for others to go but regardless the decision is fact based, can stand up to scrutiny, and isn’t one on a show of past culture under an icon.
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Old 05-23-2023 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
No, it isn’t. I’m less than a year on property, I live in base, have weekends off, credit 110-115 without even trying, 15-16 days off per month. The flip side is first year pay is pretty bad and the duty days can get long. Being on reserve is a matter of when, not if. A new contract, work rules and other QOL improvements would make life better here. With that said, I have no intention on jumping ship. Most who do, have a desire to fly wide body long haul flights, not 3, 4 or 5 legs a day. I voted yes for the SAV.
Less than a year on property.

give it some time
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