7 year SWA pilot
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7 year SWA pilot
I have officially submitted my app to a Legacy competitor. Never thought this day would come. It’s not an offer yet, but I need to take this step. There was nothing earth shatteringly surprising in the last Negotiation Update, but I see who I’m dealing with. It’s either astonishingly incompetent, or this company has terminal rot in its bones. I just don’t want it anymore.
Poopoo…is…out.
Poopoo…is…out.
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I have officially submitted my app to a Legacy competitor. Never thought this day would come. It’s not an offer yet, but I need to take this step. There was nothing earth shatteringly surprising in the last Negotiation Update, but I see who I’m dealing with. It’s either astonishingly incompetent, or this company has terminal rot in its bones. I just don’t want it anymore.
Poopoo…is…out.
Poopoo…is…out.
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I am truly concerned that this company won't survive until I retire.
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Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
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I have officially submitted my app to a Legacy competitor. Never thought this day would come. It’s not an offer yet, but I need to take this step. There was nothing earth shatteringly surprising in the last Negotiation Update, but I see who I’m dealing with. It’s either astonishingly incompetent, or this company has terminal rot in its bones. I just don’t want it anymore.
Poopoo…is…out.
Poopoo…is…out.
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I have officially submitted my app to a Legacy competitor. Never thought this day would come. It’s not an offer yet, but I need to take this step. There was nothing earth shatteringly surprising in the last Negotiation Update, but I see who I’m dealing with. It’s either astonishingly incompetent, or this company has terminal rot in its bones. I just don’t want it anymore.
Poopoo…is…out.
Poopoo…is…out.
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Only you know what's right for you and your family. Something to keep in mind... roughly 4,000 pilots hired at United just between 2021 and today. Think of the effect on your seniority down the road.
Delta has been hiring since 2014 and they've been gunning for the younger crowd.... the movement over there is also gonna be rather stagnant down the road.
I understand the anger and the angst about this place, but don't disregard the numbers.
Best of luck whatever you end up doing.
Delta has been hiring since 2014 and they've been gunning for the younger crowd.... the movement over there is also gonna be rather stagnant down the road.
I understand the anger and the angst about this place, but don't disregard the numbers.
Best of luck whatever you end up doing.
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Only you know what's right for you and your family. Something to keep in mind... roughly 4,000 pilots hired at United just between 2021 and today. Think of the effect on your seniority down the road.
Delta has been hiring since 2014 and they've been gunning for the younger crowd.... the movement over there is also gonna be rather stagnant down the road.
I understand the anger and the angst about this place, but don't disregard the numbers.
Best of luck whatever you end up doing.
Delta has been hiring since 2014 and they've been gunning for the younger crowd.... the movement over there is also gonna be rather stagnant down the road.
I understand the anger and the angst about this place, but don't disregard the numbers.
Best of luck whatever you end up doing.
Look at them now.
What I didn't understand then, and I wish I had, was that the seniority number was worth something. The likelihood that they were going to liquidate was slim to none and thanks to good fragmentation language that number would likely result in employment at some airline even if USAir were sold in pieces. Yeah they had a tough decade or two, but now my classmates from there are doing pretty darned good - far ahead of where I am on career earnings, retirement, and schedule.
What's the old saying? Don't throw out the baby with the bath water. There's still a lot of value in SWA and the likelihood that BoJo hangs a going out of business sign on the door is much lower than the company being sold in pieces and pilots going with planes. Might as well take that seniority with you.
May you live in interesting times.
(PS - If you were hired prior to 2014 you should probably go through. Especially if you're based in Dallas. 😏
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I have officially submitted my app to a Legacy competitor. Never thought this day would come. It’s not an offer yet, but I need to take this step. There was nothing earth shatteringly surprising in the last Negotiation Update, but I see who I’m dealing with. It’s either astonishingly incompetent, or this company has terminal rot in its bones. I just don’t want it anymore.
#9
I have officially submitted my app to a Legacy competitor. Never thought this day would come. It’s not an offer yet, but I need to take this step. There was nothing earth shatteringly surprising in the last Negotiation Update, but I see who I’m dealing with. It’s either astonishingly incompetent, or this company has terminal rot in its bones. I just don’t want it anymore.
Poopoo…is…out.
Poopoo…is…out.
Good luck Poo. Yo) are making the correct choice. I doubt this place will be here in 10 years outside of bankruptcy.
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Over 20. Thanks to all for your thoughts on this. FWIW, I do not believe that SWA will disappear, I do however think what, and who we are going forward will look very different 10 years from now. Without a heart, it’s just a machine…right?
Poopoo out.
Poopoo out.
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