SWA to AA
#51
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Looking at the total number of pilots hired at American since 2020 from FAPA:
2020: 356
2021: 581
2022: 1,941
2023 through the end of July: 1,306
That's 4,182 pilots hired since January 1, 2020.
Now, looking at APC age 65 retirements since January 1, 2020...
2020: 323
2021: 542
2022: 624
2023: 828
Total: 2,317
These figures do not include COVID retirements, early outs/medical retirements.
Just looking at the pilot numbers, AA might be a better deal than Delta or United now as American didn't hire nearly as many pilots and they may be on the upswing, so if one is to leave, the time would be now.
2020: 356
2021: 581
2022: 1,941
2023 through the end of July: 1,306
That's 4,182 pilots hired since January 1, 2020.
Now, looking at APC age 65 retirements since January 1, 2020...
2020: 323
2021: 542
2022: 624
2023: 828
Total: 2,317
These figures do not include COVID retirements, early outs/medical retirements.
Just looking at the pilot numbers, AA might be a better deal than Delta or United now as American didn't hire nearly as many pilots and they may be on the upswing, so if one is to leave, the time would be now.
#52
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The only thing a mediator needs to be convinced of is that the parties are entrenched and will no longer budge, so whatever tactics they have to get movement aren’t working anymore. Then they can pass that to the NMB to consider release.
#53
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: C-130H WO
Posts: 76
CJO from AA and SWA, what to do?
I got a CJO in July from AA and got a CJO from SWA today. Due to military obligations I am not available till December of this year. I was not sure where to ask so figured this is the best place for now. Never imagined I would have multiple CJOs so now I am trying to decide which one to accept. Any advice on best course of action? I have read all the negativity on both the SWA and AA threads. But I am looking for honest opinions. Thanks for any help.
#54
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Joined APC: Nov 2021
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I got a CJO in July from AA and got a CJO from SWA today. Due to military obligations I am not available till December of this year. I was not sure where to ask so figured this is the best place for now. Never imagined I would have multiple CJOs so now I am trying to decide which one to accept. Any advice on best course of action? I have read all the negativity on both the SWA and AA threads. But I am looking for honest opinions. Thanks for any help.
#55
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
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I got a CJO in July from AA and got a CJO from SWA today. Due to military obligations I am not available till December of this year. I was not sure where to ask so figured this is the best place for now. Never imagined I would have multiple CJOs so now I am trying to decide which one to accept. Any advice on best course of action? I have read all the negativity on both the SWA and AA threads. But I am looking for honest opinions. Thanks for any help.
#56
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
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I got a CJO in July from AA and got a CJO from SWA today. Due to military obligations I am not available till December of this year. I was not sure where to ask so figured this is the best place for now. Never imagined I would have multiple CJOs so now I am trying to decide which one to accept. Any advice on best course of action? I have read all the negativity on both the SWA and AA threads. But I am looking for honest opinions. Thanks for any help.
the new ta is coming here in a few months. It will at least match the other 3 or it won’t go anywhere. Age 67 is also coming and you can expect upgrades to increase elsewhere, but not really here due to low retirements next 2 years.
tough choice. But drive to work first. The rest is extra.
#57
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I got a CJO in July from AA and got a CJO from SWA today. Due to military obligations I am not available till December of this year. I was not sure where to ask so figured this is the best place for now. Never imagined I would have multiple CJOs so now I am trying to decide which one to accept. Any advice on best course of action? I have read all the negativity on both the SWA and AA threads. But I am looking for honest opinions. Thanks for any help.
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