DL looking ahead on how to make money without having to actually pay their pilots…joint ventures, regional jets, etc. Fewest WB of the big 3, brought the RJ whipsaw to the industry….not exactly who I want this airline to be like.

 

THe profit sharing checks seem to be ok.

Best of luck with your Allegiant merger. DOH?

 

Well when you don’t have to pay the regional affiliates PS, nor pay your JV partners PS….you have more $ with fewer mouths to feed.

If their PS is so high, they they screwed the pooch and failed to negotiate the contract they deserved. I’d much rather have more $ every month than gamble on a once a year payday. I’d also rather have our scope than their scope that you can drive a truck through.

We’re not merging with Allegiant…or anyone else under this govt.

 

I'm not sure you have a full grasp of their contract or scope. Or the concept of profit sharing. Or much of anything, really.

Delta mgmt would love to do as you suggest and trade profit sharing for pay rates. That transaction would last one negotiating cycle, and evaporate. Anyway, Ualpa and apa must have thought it was ok, since they matched the dalpa formula.

where do you think you’d be right now without Delta pilots standing firm and raising the bar significantly last year?

But you do you. Sounds like you have all the answers. Good luck.

 

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I think you’re the very first person to have ever said these words!

 

We’ll see if you’re still singing the same tune when Delta acquires Southwest for pennies on the dollar after they go bust like Blockbuster and you get stapled to the bottom of our seniority list. I bet you’ll be drinking that Delta Red Kool-Aid within a few weeks like a good boy!

 

Southwest will be blockbuster if we don’t change. It’s only a matter of time. We have all this money on deck, but don’t do anything with it. Other than hand out ridiculous bonuses to C-suite who don’t deserve 10% of it. Fear of taking calculated risks will work against us.

 

UAL and AA were forced to match DL rates and didn’t really exceed them. AA matched and UAL barely beat them triggering the me-too. If DL had agreed to 10-15% more, that’s what it would be at the other 2. They settled for less in the best negotiating environment we’ll likely ever see.

it’s a fact that RJ’s and JV’s generate revenue that isn’t shared with those employees. AA’s PS was lower in part because they are forced to share with their WO regionals, while DL doesn’t.

We likely could’ve had higher rates instead of being forced to negotiate off of previously agreed to 737 rates. I know we have the best scope in the industry and will never budge on it. DL does not….WB rates don’t do you much good when you’re not flying the planes. Only thing in the DL contract I wish we had was green slips…other than that, I don’t really care.

You do you though…go hang out in the Widget forum.

 

Costco's Kirkland popcorn is amazing and comes in metric ****ton quantities. I'm not sure there's enough for this thread....

 

this AT complaining is getting so old. AT got a good deal, and btw lots of swa guys got it in the butt too. Just curious if AT was still around if they'd be making $364/hr.