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11-06-2024 | 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mozam

I think sooner. The silence 7 will be here sooner than everyone is expecting. JMO

Certification June of 2026. If we are lucky.

11-06-2024 | 04:33 PM

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Heard this as well at recurrent. Apparently parts have been scavenged off several of them as well.

This. I flew with a ckam recently that does a lot of stuff up in Seattle for us. He said the same and we would most likely refuse the 30+ built due to the gremlins contained within.

11-06-2024 | 04:36 PM

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This. I flew with a ckam recently that does a lot of stuff up in Seattle for us. He said the same and we would most likely refuse the 30+ built due to the gremlins contained within.

GOOD! Bring on another fleet type.

11-06-2024 | 04:50 PM

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GOOD! Bring on another fleet type.

Wouldn’t it be nice to get that 220 or the 190E2?! Seems like we could install a proper premium product (first class) in the -8’s and save some weight and run those like a real airline, and use the smaller jets on the Texas 2 step or cali shuffle?!

what do I know? I just work with toilets…

11-07-2024 | 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaJaime

This. I flew with a ckam recently that does a lot of stuff up in Seattle for us. He said the same and we would most likely refuse the 30+ built due to the gremlins contained within.

Would make sense but with global economies contracting….I’d guess we’d take them for a steal and make Boeing get them all back up to current standards.

11-07-2024 | 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaJaime

This. I flew with a ckam recently that does a lot of stuff up in Seattle for us. He said the same and we would most likely refuse the 30+ built due to the gremlins contained within.

have they/we not been keeping them airworthy like they did with the max?

11-07-2024 | 03:53 PM

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have they/we not been keeping them airworthy like they did with the max?

Doubt it. Gonna need software updates, the anti-ice cowl fix, etc. Also who knows if they put them in long term storage taped up or just let them sit in the parking lot as a bird nest.

11-15-2024 | 04:47 AM

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Company update from 11/15 said 62 new hires in 2025. All will be from Destination 225 program. 194 upgrades.

11-15-2024 | 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh

Company update from 11/15 said 62 new hires in 2025. All will be from Destination 225 program. 194 upgrades.

With respect to upgrades, according to MySeniority:

- 982 FO's have bypassed.
- The junior end of 982 FO's couldn't hold captain towards the end as more senior bypassers took upgrade slots as the music started winding down.
- It seems that historically, we've had roughly 1,000-1,100 FO's bypassing making roughly 60-61% master seniority a threshold to upgrade.

So... will the juniormost captain on the seniority list is gonna remain the juniormost captain next year or wil people will still be bypassing and by what margin?