Didn't in fact SWA furlough pilot's early on when they went from 3 to 2 737-200s? I don't have a dog in this fight but I am Rain Man when it comes to airline history and maybe I misread it when The Peoples Court was on but I am pretty certain SWA has in fact furloughed pilots before.

I hope it certainly doesn't happen and SWA survives this apparent Coup de tat but, if we're just talking facts. Just the facts mam!

 

Or tough as shoe leather. Take your pick

 

so you walk into a bank, guns drawn, and then change your mind. No harm, no foul? GMAFB...

 

Technically speaking, SWA did not furlough in recent memory.

But the management team itself doesn't get any points for that because we all know they intended to.

 

Both sides of this argument are stupid.

1-SWA chose to furlough. That was their executive decision. It’s within their abilities and they chose to do so. DONE! End of story as it pertains to SWA management!

2- The govt (illegitimate but I digress) overrode the SWA executive decision to furlough and flooded us with tax dollars (debt, actually) and required the executives to NOT furlough. It wasn’t SWA changing their mind or anything of the sort. (I don’t know why anyone would even say that) A more powerful force intervened and prevented SWA’s desired course of action-FURLOUGH!

This idiot quacks like a duck every time you press your finger in his chest. He spouts out whatever mantra he was told during 225 propaganda sessions. He repeats it mindlessly and has over proven the case that he is intellectually challenged. He’s a product of the perfect storm of incompetence. SWA leadership failures… govt intervention requiring AQP which requires hiring while we’re over-manned… 225 (which wouldn’t currently exist outside of this perfect storm) bringing in under-qualified and poor performing individuals that should still be washing airplanes at a local fbo… Now, kids are being brought in that recognize a confluence of unfortunate and bizarre events left a door open for them that should not have been. In all of their foolish glee, they will be the perfect useful idiots to do exactly what this guy is doing. He hasn’t said anything intelligent yet. He’s incapable. He’s a mocking bird of company propaganda. That’s all he’s able to do and he’s proving very dutiful at the task.

 

Just for a point of reference, Delta didn't furlough anyone in their first 70yrs in business, but then they did.

 

if it weren't for uncle sugar throwing around $Billions in forgivable loans (if you didn't furlough), all the airlines would have significantly furloughed over Covid restrictions. The fact that all those loans had no furlough stipulations to became grants is what prompted most companies to offer "early outs" to excess employees which quite frankly hampered the whole recovery.

 

Oh my lord, THANK YOU from the bottom of my feet!
I was starting to think that joke just swam right by everybody.

 

Buchanan is a troll and this whole argument is ridiculous. He is just seeing how long he can string you guys along arguing his stupid premise.

Southwest is just another big airline now with big airline costs and big airline problems, including anti-pilot management. They would furlough in a hot second if they thought that scheme would work out to their finanacial benefit. Tammy Romo dropped an accidental nod to the fact that they are already having contract regret when she mentioned in the investor day presentation that labor contracts and especially pilots are expensive, causing increased headwinds that need to be overcome with similarly increased revenue. The thing about that is that the pilots worked with the company and have for many years to give them revenue streams to unlock via scope and costs to cut via scheduling practices. SWA management chooses not to pull those levers, so here we are.

The email that came out from our VP of Flight Ops should come as no surprise to anyone. It's just a reminder that any warmth, personal connection, and emotion that you feel for this company is born out of a lie from long ago and is completely misplaced. Given a choice between doing the right thing and doing the thing that will benefit them, they will almost always choose the thing that puts money in their pockets at a cost to you. Pilots are faced with choices on a daily basis at a micro level along those same lines. Carry extra gas or no? Single engine taxi or no? Continue tired or bang out fatigued? Jump through the commuter policy hoops or just bang out sick? My advice to everyone is to remember the cowardly message that LK decided to send out after 5 on a Friday before he went home for the weekend. I know I will.

 

Buchanan is just Stools. Their posts about furloughs are almost word for word alike.