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Puck Hawg 08-28-2025 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by ROTORGUY (Post 3943246)
Did you already have a CJO? I did not realize they opened things up to anyone outside the ones that had CJO’s in 2024.

Had to be something like that. I made a straight dash to the careers website and the window is closed.

ToTheTabs 08-28-2025 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by ROTORGUY (Post 3943246)
Did you already have a CJO? I did not realize they opened things up to anyone outside the ones that had CJO’s in 2024.

Yes. I got the CJO in December of '23

SlingGearr 08-28-2025 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by 30WestEst (Post 3943170)
Has anyone gotten a call back after the logbook review? I’m in the waiting game again and they didn’t explain how the process was for getting a call back after the review.

Had the logbook interview on the 22nd and haven't heard anything yet. When was your logbook review?

Another pilot who did theirs the same day just got a call and given a CJO today this afternoon. We both had original CJOs from November 23

at6d 08-28-2025 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by ToTheTabs (Post 3943260)
Yes. I got the CJO in December of '23

Wait, so you got a CJO and they rescinded it? What have you been doing since that CJO was issued?

ToTheTabs 08-28-2025 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3943274)
Wait, so you got a CJO and they rescinded it? What have you been doing since that CJO was issued?

Yep. Was in the pool. Now I'm not.
Been flying 121. Been at the same regional. Upgraded to CA last year and added a new type.
5000 TT, 1500ish multi turbine, 500 TPIC. No degree and one checkride bust (ILOE)
Not sure which of those stats are the new deal breaker, but I didn't make it to the logbook review. After updating my times, I got the call a few days later that I wasn't moving forward. I suspect it's the LOE unsat, but I didn't get the chance to talk about it, so I'm not sure. No feedback was given.
The kick is that I have to wait a year from now (not 12/'23 when I actually interviewed) to reapply. So if hiring kicks off for real in January, I can't apply then, even though it will have been over 2 years since I last applied. I suppose that if I'm not competitive now, I won't be competitive 4 months from now anyway.
While not getting the job sucked, at least I currently have a 121 job that pays pretty well and that I don't dislike. There are lots of people in a much worse situation than me. WN is still a goal of mine, so I'll just keep making them tell me no every 12 months...

WHACKMASTER 08-28-2025 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by ToTheTabs (Post 3943298)
Yep. Was in the pool. Now I'm not.
Been flying 121. Been at the same regional. Upgraded to CA last year and added a new type.
5000 TT, 1500ish multi turbine, 500 TPIC. No degree and one checkride bust (ILOE)
Not sure which of those stats are the new deal breaker, but I didn't make it to the logbook review. After updating my times, I got the call a few days later that I wasn't moving forward. I suspect it's the LOE unsat, but I didn't get the chance to talk about it, so I'm not sure. No feedback was given.
The kick is that I have to wait a year from now (not 12/'23 when I actually interviewed) to reapply. So if hiring kicks off for real in January, I can't apply then, even though it will have been over 2 years since I last applied. I suppose that if I'm not competitive now, I won't be competitive 4 months from now anyway.
While not getting the job sucked, at least I currently have a 121 job that pays pretty well and that I don't dislike. There are lots of people in a much worse situation than me. WN is still a goal of mine, so I'll just keep making them tell me no every 12 months...

So instead of hiring someone like you who’s a 121 captain, we’re taking on Destination 225 people with a lot less experience. Genius.

Please tell me you have your apps in with the Big 3?

ToTheTabs 08-28-2025 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3943311)

Please tell me you have your apps in with the Big 3?

I do now...

123AB 08-28-2025 08:34 PM

Sadly, I can confirm they are not honoring all of the CJOs that were given out and then told "keep improving yourself and you still have a CJO once we start hiring again". I know someone that went through the logbook review last week and was then turned away. Since receiving the first CJO in Nov 2023, he successfully upgraded to CA (Part 121) and flew 850+ hours PIC. His upgrade was clean, no issues. He did have one training failure almost four years ago and that was disclosed and discussed in his first interview back in Nov 2023. He had to discuss it again during his logbook review last week and felt good about how he handled the questions. He was told they would be in touch after considering everything and 3 days later he received a TBNT email with a "you can reapply again in a year".

He was devastated. He had been charging hard since the first CJO, had a perfect record since then, and assumed that doing so would land him a class date when the time came.

His approximate stats:
4,100TT
2,050 Part 121
850+ Part 121 PIC
400 Twin Turboprop PIC
Only failure ever was needing to repeat a MV during initial at his regional

e6bpilot 08-28-2025 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by 123AB (Post 3943364)
Sadly, I can confirm they are not honoring all of the CJOs that were given out and then told "keep improving yourself and you still have a CJO once we start hiring again". I know someone that went through the logbook review last week and was then turned away. Since receiving the first CJO in Nov 2023, he successfully upgraded to CA (Part 121) and flew 850+ hours PIC. His upgrade was clean, no issues. He did have one training failure almost four years ago and that was disclosed and discussed in his first interview back in Nov 2023. He had to discuss it again during his logbook review last week and felt good about how he handled the questions. He was told they would be in touch after considering everything and 3 days later he received a TBNT email with a "you can reapply again in a year".

He was devastated. He had been charging hard since the first CJO, had a perfect record since then, and assumed that doing so would land him a class date when the time came.

His approximate stats:
4,100TT
2,050 Part 121
850+ Part 121 PIC
400 Twin Turboprop PIC
Only failure ever was needing to repeat a MV during initial at his regional

Wow. That's crap. Most of us have had similar silly issues crop up at some point in our careers. I am sorry to hear that this is happening. Sounds like he will make a great FO for another airline.

123AB 08-28-2025 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3943367)
Wow. That's crap. Most of us have had similar silly issues crop up at some point in our careers. I am sorry to hear that this is happening. Sounds like he will make a great FO for another airline.

I agree. It is crap especially since he had a CJO and each of the six month communications with the company rep that was staying in touch with him indicated that he still had a slot, assumption being that he was actively flying and doing all the right things. I think what bothers me the most is the company has been bringing on the D225'rs with way less experience, yet now we're turning away some in the CJO pool with 2,000 hours of Part 121 time? Oh well, beyond my control and I've been lifting up my friend and dusting him off. He will be a good hire for someone else.


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