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Ok—What’s The New Base?

Old 12-04-2025 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Imagine if El Toro and Miramar both became Civilian Airports and the Marines had moved to George AFB where they were wanted and closer to their training ranges and areas. SoCal would have experienced a far better quality of growth and influx of top line companies and jobs.
Sounds like you would be happy to speak Chinese. You might want to take a step back and thank a veteran.
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Old 12-04-2025 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Come on, you know they can hit the beaches of 29 Palms twice in one day! Come ashore off LAX, stop for gas at Chiriaco Summit on I-10, easy.
I hear Yuma has nice beaches too
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Old 12-04-2025 | 08:18 AM
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Salton Sea? Luxury!
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Old 12-04-2025 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
IMHO, something is brewing and that’s why the delay in announcing a new base. It could be bidding on NK’s assets, or M&A (doubtful), or negotiating with an airport board like KSAN (most likely).

Perhaps negotiations are ongoing and that’s why the company can’t commit to making an announcement yet.
or...and hear me out on this one. Pilot QOL is of no benefit to the company. And thats why no announcements
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Old 12-04-2025 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
IMHO, something is brewing and that’s why the delay in announcing a new base. It could be bidding on NK’s assets, or M&A (doubtful), or negotiating with an airport board like KSAN (most likely).

Perhaps negotiations are ongoing and that’s why the company can’t commit to making an announcement yet.
They're negotiating with the Austin airport board on the airport use and lease agreement. The current lease expires 12/31. New terms are expected to be announced early January. Next base will be Austin and my bet is they are just waiting on the final ink on the paper to make it official.
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Old 12-04-2025 | 08:39 AM
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The QOL statement they made still makes me angry. I took every penny on the paid move, actually use my sick earnings, and will take time for vacation. I don’t volunteer for crew scheduling, and don’t play the “we need your help” game. I don’t pick up during a picket, I don’t fly fatigued, and I don’t run to the next gate (they already boarded and are waiting!). We don’t leave until my crew is taken care of, and sometimes that includes the rampers.
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Old 12-04-2025 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
The QOL statement they made still makes me angry. I took every penny on the paid move, actually use my sick earnings, and will take time for vacation. I don’t volunteer for crew scheduling, and don’t play the “we need your help” game. I don’t pick up during a picket, I don’t fly fatigued, and I don’t run to the next gate (they already boarded and are waiting!). We don’t leave until my crew is taken care of, and sometimes that includes the rampers.
Sadly no one in a position to make a change sees this.
I agree with your sentiment tho.
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Old 12-04-2025 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Wow….. total A-hole comment.

Screw those military people…… the civilians need a new golf course and McMansions in suburbia!

Facts:
-George AFB is a superfund toxic cleanup site….. I guess “screw ‘em” is your mindset regarding the Marines and their families?
-“Closer to their training ranges and areas” is a flat out lie. Marines need to be near the beach. That is literally what they do, amphibious assaults. Hence the bases at Miramar and Camp Pendleton.
-El Toro was in fact closed and given back to the public. Instead of using it as a civilian airport they decided to make it into a park and suburban neighborhoods.
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Miramar would have made a damn good airport for San Diego. Politics plays a bigger role than needs of the service with BRAC. There hasn't been a big round of it in a long time, but when it happens, hold your nose and close your eyes. Marines could have expanded Pendleton's airfield and been ok, but that's now how it went down for good reason. I am glad Miramar got to stay within big Navy, but it would have made a lot of sense to return it to the community. It's a tough sell to let it go, though, since it also acts as a training base for 2 services and several airframes.
Lindbergh could have been the corporate airfield. I love where that airfield is in relation to the city, but we have just begun to see what happens when you try to put too much stuff in the single runway sock. SWA and Alaska are both making big moves there and it is starting to unravel where it used to be a fairly easy in and out type of place.
As for George AFB, yeah....it had issues. Same with El Toro. Turns out pouring fuel and PBEs into the ground for decades isn't good.
San Diego is a Navy town and will be for a long time. It's nice to see since the NorCal Navy got destroyed by BRAC and only a shadow of where it used to dominate the landscape remains.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
Sounds like you would be happy to speak Chinese. You might want to take a step back and thank a veteran.
I was based at both El Toro and Miramar. I flew virtually all my training missions at the inland ranges. I can count on one hand the number of missions I flew at Camp Pendleton. It would have been vastly better to have the fixed wing units at George. With recent events at Pendleton it’s likely the that no fixed wing live ordnance missions will fly there again.
This is before we even discuss ATC issues, ordnance storage and loading, carrying ordnance over populated areas and Miramar hemmed in by two interstates.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by herkaholic
They're negotiating with the Austin airport board on the airport use and lease agreement. The current lease expires 12/31. New terms are expected to be announced early January. Next base will be Austin and my bet is they are just waiting on the final ink on the paper to make it official.

So you're 100% sure the ink is in the process of drying and Austin is going to give us the new terminal and we open a new base. Pinky swear?
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