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Old 03-09-2026 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AR1978
Just wondering what life as a new hire at MDW would be like? Currently flying the yellow bus out of ORD and live in Chicago, so doing some research since applications to SW are now open.
What do you want to know?

We have about 55% 3 days, 20% 4 days, and a smattering of turns and 2 days. Schedules are generally split between an AM/PM/Red Eye split. Reserve is mainly 4 day blocks. They try to shoot for same start days when building lines, but they will do staggered lines (particularly with 3 day blocks of reserve). About 70% of pairings touch the weekend.

MDW has a healthy open time system both due to size and there are a lot of commuters which remove some of the competition for open time. You can also trade with the company and other pilots to adjust your schedule.

MDW can be held within a couple months of DOH, and it wouldn't surprise me to hold it out of training as the year goes on. It is generally only a couple months senior to the most junior Captain base.
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Old 03-09-2026 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R
What do you want to know?

We have about 55% 3 days, 20% 4 days, and a smattering of turns and 2 days. Schedules are generally split between an AM/PM/Red Eye split. Reserve is mainly 4 day blocks. They try to shoot for same start days when building lines, but they will do staggered lines (particularly with 3 day blocks of reserve). About 70% of pairings touch the weekend.

MDW has a healthy open time system both due to size and there are a lot of commuters which remove some of the competition for open time. You can also trade with the company and other pilots to adjust your schedule.

MDW can be held within a couple months of DOH, and it wouldn't surprise me to hold it out of training as the year goes on. It is generally only a couple months senior to the most junior Captain base.
That was actually very helpful and answered most of my questions. Thank you. The only other question I have is what is the junior CA approximate date of hire for MDW?
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Old 03-09-2026 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AR1978
That was actually very helpful and answered most of my questions. Thank you. The only other question I have is what is the junior CA approximate date of hire for MDW?
Most Jr MDW CA was hired May '17. Upgraded June '24
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Old 03-10-2026 | 04:58 AM
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Default Captain upgrade time

So is it safe to say captain upgrade time is 7 years?

how’s this going to change over the next 5 years?

What’s the most junior captain bases?

upgrade time in MCO?
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Old 03-10-2026 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by j12770
So is it safe to say captain upgrade time is 7 years?

how’s this going to change over the next 5 years?

What’s the most junior captain bases?

upgrade time in MCO?
id say count on 10 yrs. Most Jr right now i think is AUS.
Upgrade un MCO- 15?
Its where the senior go to retire.
Anything can change.
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Old 03-10-2026 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by j12770
So is it safe to say captain upgrade time is 7 years?

how’s this going to change over the next 5 years?

What’s the most junior captain bases?

upgrade time in MCO?
I mean this with all due respect, but there's no telling how things will change in the next 5 months, let alone years. If you were asking this same question 5 years ago it would have been in the peak layoff/early retirement/ExTO period with no end in sight. Upgrade times and junior bases are just as unpredictable.
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Old 03-10-2026 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by j12770
So is it safe to say captain upgrade time is 7 years?

how’s this going to change over the next 5 years?

What’s the most junior captain bases?

upgrade time in MCO?
upgrade time when I was hired in ‘15 was 10 years. I upgraded in 7.5. Shortly after it went down to 6.5. Now it’s in the 7-8 yr range. That’s for those hired back in 17-18. We have a gap in hiring from the max grounding, covid, and this last 18 mos of stagnation too so things could drop quick and then go back up as we hired a buttload post covid.

Most Jr is BWI right now. MCO ebbs and flows…some guys in my class got it as CA’s around 8-8.5 yrs seniority but they’re still really jr because nobody leaves MCO unless they retire or go in a body bag.

There’s no realistic way for anyone, at any airline to say with any certainty what will happen in 5 years. Think anyone at NK thought they’d be in their 2nd Ch 11 5 yrs ago?
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Old 03-10-2026 | 06:55 AM
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Agree with future predictions. They are pretty pointless. You can go with the info you have now, but it will probably change.
MDW is and always has been a large base with a good variety of flying. Having talked at length with Spirit pilots I will tell you that the two scheduling systems are both very different, but both have the ability to really shape your schedule and/or pay situation. At Spirit it is easier to get days straight dropped. Once you get to know the system and contract at SWA, though, you can really utilize it to boost your QOL and pay.
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Old 03-10-2026 | 07:27 AM
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Just wondering what the ATL junior FO and CA date of hire is right now? I know Atlanta is potentially the first base that SW might close but just curious.
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Old 03-10-2026 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AR1978
Just wondering what the ATL junior FO and CA date of hire is right now? I know Atlanta is potentially the first base that SW might close but just curious.
ATL is the most sr CA base an 2nd most Sr FO base. People sneak in occasionally but I wouldn’t plan on getting in anytime soon. No word on it closing.
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