Airtran/Southwest AIP in a nutshell
#141
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From: DC9 CA
I plan to hang with my SW buddy in a day or two from now. No animosity toward other pilots, not from me.
#142
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From: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
i think i like John Deere's response to this
#143
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
In talking to a very large number of our fellow pilots the last few days, I'd say that your sentiment is DEFINITELY in the minority. It's not going to be pretty to say the least. Don't kid yourself.
#144
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From: DC9 CA
You may be correct. In that case, there will probably be strategic firings from both groups.
#145
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From: 717 CA
Remember, the ValuJet guys paid for their types too. Of course we ATers have a high opinion of SW and their position in the airline world. However we weren't sitting in leaky boat waiting to be rescued. We have been fighting for close to two decades to make a good company with considerable adversity. By almost every metric we were succeeding.
Some on the SW side seem to think we should be happy with the money, with no other considerations. We did not ask for this, but feel we bring value to the table. Most of us will be very happy to work hard and use our skills to the benefit of SW and will adapt to the culture to SW's satisfaction. We have become very sensitive to disrespect from management, and are disappointed that we are headed to being second class at our new home. Forever being the "others" is not what we imagined.
I believe a small amount of respect for our position will bring large dividends for the "real" SW pilots. Both near and long term.
Some on the SW side seem to think we should be happy with the money, with no other considerations. We did not ask for this, but feel we bring value to the table. Most of us will be very happy to work hard and use our skills to the benefit of SW and will adapt to the culture to SW's satisfaction. We have become very sensitive to disrespect from management, and are disappointed that we are headed to being second class at our new home. Forever being the "others" is not what we imagined.
I believe a small amount of respect for our position will bring large dividends for the "real" SW pilots. Both near and long term.
#147
Well that is certainly one way to react to not getting what you want.
Wait a minute wasn't it the SWA guys who were pitching a hissy. As I said, mature professional pilots would at least keep it out of the cockpit. Within the company guidelines on employee conduct those other areas you mentioned will be civil also. Mistreatment of anyone on both sides will result in a public beheading.
I have been having this type of discussion with some of our more upset pilots. By mistreating each other in the workplace we are really only hurting ourselves, our families, etc. If you can't bring yourself to work with the opposition in this debate than perhaps a resignation is in order. Works both ways.
The Oscar
#148
The latest grumblings on our side is that AT pay for the 717 is unacceptable. We haven't seen squat and our BOD is still discussing the merits of the deal. Hopefully that will be fixed if true. Regardless, our section 6 opens next year(though I wouldn't mind waiting for DAL).
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#149
Nice, jetpilot
, except they didn't ask to join your company - your company executives saw enough value (pardon the pun) to acquire and bring THEM "inside" at SWA rates, thus eliminating a true low-cost competitor. This road obviously seems more beneficial to the future(changed) direction of the company - it just may be contrary to that organic growth you as a pilot naturally prefer. Sounds like your beef really lies with your own company.
iF
, except they didn't ask to join your company - your company executives saw enough value (pardon the pun) to acquire and bring THEM "inside" at SWA rates, thus eliminating a true low-cost competitor. This road obviously seems more beneficial to the future(changed) direction of the company - it just may be contrary to that organic growth you as a pilot naturally prefer. Sounds like your beef really lies with your own company.iF
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