Southwest hiring info
12-28-2014, 08:06 AM
#831
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Originally Posted by Holly
While all of the last posts are very true, I'll offer a different angle. With the caveat that not everyone will get called by the big three, if I was looking for a career today, wn would be my 3 rd or 4 th choice. Being an fo forever sucks. Let's be honest, most of us do not aspire to be fo s. Now that the industry has MAYBE stabilized and if age 65 holds, the legacies are by far a better choice with re to retirement, aircraft type, pilot retirements and upgrade.
Wn is great and I make good $, but for someone looking to make that final move, no longer choice # 1 for the majority.
Wn is great and I make good $, but for someone looking to make that final move, no longer choice # 1 for the majority.
12-28-2014, 10:54 AM
#832
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Let's take an objective look
Originally Posted by Stitches
A more accurate statement would be to say that the current jr SWA captain upgraded at 9.5 years (admittedly skewed lower by the AT integration).
The seniority calculator also says the bottom guy on the swa list will hit 50% in 2030 with zero growth. I'd say 15 years is a fairly conservative estimate for a new hire.
The seniority calculator also says the bottom guy on the swa list will hit 50% in 2030 with zero growth. I'd say 15 years is a fairly conservative estimate for a new hire.
Regarding upgrade time at SWA just go to myseniority.com and plug in the last guy on our seniority list and see what it says. I did it and it shows him reaching number 4,000 on the combined 8,000 pilot list (7,983 to be exact) in 16 years (2030 as stated above). Considering the company has stated multiple times in several publications they intend to grow ASMs with no fleet growth I'd say a 15 year upgrade is a safe assumption as well.
To the other point: It's true upgrade is not everything. However, with a 15 year upgrade how long will you be a junior FO? How long will you be a junior Captain? We are objectively talking about seniority progression here so don't read into it beyond the scope of this discussion. Yes there are other factors to consider but we are only talking about seniority progression right now. Frankly I consider our AM/PM scheduling to be priceless but that's a topic for another discussion.
12-28-2014, 08:42 PM
#833
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
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Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe
Should upgrade time be the number one factor when determining what airline one tries to peruse? I think it's a different strokes for different folks kind of thing.
12-28-2014, 09:19 PM
#834
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
...I'll tell you this, there are a lot of guys like me that are around 20 years from retirement. I won't upgrade to some crazy commute just to sit reserve for my last five years. So if it does take that long I think that large swaths of the seniority list will be bypassing and hanging on to seniority in the right seat vs. the first upgrade. That alone will skew the numbers considerably.
01-01-2015, 02:29 PM
#839
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
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The only official information is still classes starting in late summer. All you can do is extrapolate a possible date based on what they did last time.
(Last year when they hired, window opened in September. First interviews were in mid October. Classes started in mid December)
(Last year when they hired, window opened in September. First interviews were in mid October. Classes started in mid December)
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