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Old 12-22-2014, 05:00 PM
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True. I haven't been able to bring myself to throw down for a Leather Jacket that doesn't even fit right and I know I'd never want to wear. I'd be a little more inclined to pay for an approved lightweight Jacket that's water resistant of the Patagonia or North Face variety.
My leather jacket is 14+ years old and looks new. It is actually comfortable too. Do you wear pajamas all the time?

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Old 12-22-2014, 05:06 PM
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Just had a conversation with my CP today. I am not the uniform police.......but please try to conform with the standards. Or join a committee to change the uniform requirements. Easy for me to say again (as a former Marine), but your comfort is really unimportant.

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Old 12-22-2014, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch View Post
Just had a conversation with my CP today. I am not the uniform police.......but please try to conform with the standards. Or join a committee to change the uniform requirements. Easy for me to say again (as a former Marine), but your comfort is really unimportan

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I guess I really struck a nerve with you with the whole leather jacket thing!!! I guess you can say I used to wear pajamas all the time if you must know.. (Flight suit) Nowhere did I suggest I was straying from the uniform standards nor advocating such.. I was just just referring to the the email from our VP of Flight ops that said that they were exploring options for a new "official" black lightweight jacket.

I guess you missed that memo..
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Burton78 View Post
I guess I really struck a nerve with you with the whole leather jacket thing!!! I guess you can say I used to wear pajamas all the time if you must know.. (Flight suit) Nowhere did I suggest I was straying from the uniform standards nor advocating such.. I was just just referring to the the email from our VP of Flight ops that said that they were exploring options for a new "official" black lightweight jacket.

I guess you missed that memo..
Got the memo Burton. Looking forward to an approved light weight jacket. No comparison to the flight suit needed. When you strap your behind in to a rocket it better be comfortable. Sorry if I came off harsh.

I recently flew with an FO who came from another carrier. Had to endure how smart he was because he wasn't willing to pay for an approved leather jacket. The one he had was barely acceptable. Wanted to pour gasoline on myself and light a match.....he was sooooo smart.

Discussion with the CP was based on my observations recently. One of our pilots with a jacket that was more of a robe. A trip to the hotel with an FO with a Lands End jacket on. Lose the tie at least so I won't have to keep from saying something. The leather jacket is much more useful than the blazer. Had to carry the London Fog overcoat if the weather was bad back in the old days.

Just pointing out that the uniform standards are what they are. For some, it is all about being comfortable. Again, I really don't care about your comfort. Frankly, I wear the tie all day and don't feel uncomfortable at all. Yes if your wondering, I even wear the Hat The horror! I wear the hat because it bothers some people. I am all about making those people squirm. They know who they are.

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Can we please get back to the topic.
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch View Post
Got the memo Burton. Looking forward to an approved light weight jacket. No comparison to the flight suit needed. When you strap your behind in to a rocket it better be comfortable. Sorry if I came off harsh.

I recently flew with an FO who came from another carrier. Had to endure how smart he was because he wasn't willing to pay for an approved leather jacket. The one he had was barely acceptable. Wanted to pour gasoline on myself and light a match.....he was sooooo smart.

Discussion with the CP was based on my observations recently. One of our pilots with a jacket that was more of a robe. A trip to the hotel with an FO with a Lands End jacket on. Lose the tie at least so I won't have to keep from saying something. The leather jacket is much more useful than the blazer. Had to carry the London Fog overcoat if the weather was bad back in the old days.

Just pointing out that the uniform standards are what they are. For some, it is all about being comfortable. Again, I really don't care about your comfort. Frankly, I wear the tie all day and don't feel uncomfortable at all. Yes if your wondering, I even wear the Hat The horror! I wear the hat because it bothers some people. I am all about making those people squirm. They know who they are.

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Can we please get back to the topic.
Who's the leather jacket vendor?
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Old 12-23-2014, 03:08 PM
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Question: is there any kind of uniform allowance?
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Old 12-23-2014, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by itsokimapilot View Post
According to some upgrade guys I was chatting with. GK said to expect 6% growth in 2015 during their luncheon. He also told them to expect 400 new hires starting to interview late Jan-early Feb. he found 49 -700s that are in the process of conversion.
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The VP of flight ops just confirmed in an email:
Current plan is 300 this year with classes starting in late summer/early fall.
600 next year.
This question probably falls into the unknowable category, but I would appreciate if the guys on the inside would weigh in here. I see two competing theories on when interviews/classes will start in 2015: Theory 1 has GK saying as early as JAN/FEB for interviews for presumably APR class starts. Theory 2 is from the VP of Flt Ops email with classes starting AUG/SEP with presumably interviews starting MAY/JUN. Which is more likely?
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Old 12-23-2014, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe View Post
Who's the leather jacket vendor?
Perrone leather. Their company took a big hit during the recession. Quality product and people. No financial interest......just the facts.

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Old 12-23-2014, 05:33 PM
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I interviewed last January and was turned down. I can re-apply in January. I have been reading this and other threads and it sounds like my next opportunity may be very soon. I don't know what I did that sunk me, and I really want to make a better impression if I get another shot. I have a lot of military buddies at SWA and every one of them told me that it was mine to lose when I got the interview. Obviously, I did or said something the interviewers did not like. After my retirement from active duty, I flew for a regional for about 13 months and then took a job as an instructor for a well-known Part 142 school near my home in Texas. When asked why I left the regional, I truthfully said that part of the reason was because my daughter's health had declined and I felt I needed to be closer to home and more accessible. Since then, that aspect of my life has cleared up significantly and I really want to get back in the cockpit. Can any of y'all give me some insight or advice in case I get another interview? I really want to fly for SWA.
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Old 12-23-2014, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch View Post
Perrone leather. Their company took a big hit during the recession. Quality product and people. No financial interest......just the facts.

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FYI: Perrone is taking over 3 months right now. That may be why some newer FO'S are without it. I've been waiting over 3 months for mine.
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