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Old 03-21-2013, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bush Pilot
Were those:

The pilots that had apps at swa that didn't get hired?

The AAI pilots that left AAI to go to SWA?

The AAI pilots that had APPS at SWA that didn't get hired?

The SWA Pilots that left SWA to go to AAI?

It's all too confusing to me.

Ahhhh.......the pompousness is still alive and well I see.
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Originally Posted by GizmoNC
ATL AUA via FL
Flight #1807
Departs Atlanta, GA at 10:35 AM
Arrives Aruba, Aruba at 2:38 PM

Total travel time: 4 h 3 m

BWI SAN via WN
Flight #130
Departs BWI at 3:25 PM
Arrives SAN at 6:15 PM
Nonstop

Total travel time : 5h 50m
I don't get it. What does San Diego have to do with a near international flying?
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bush Pilot
Were those:

The pilots that had apps at swa that didn't get hired?

The AAI pilots that left AAI to go to SWA?

The AAI pilots that had APPS at SWA that didn't get hired?

The SWA Pilots that left SWA to go to AAI?

It's all too confusing to me.
Was that the SWA that had ran out of options on expansion and required buying AAI for its future?
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoNC
ATL AUA via FL
Flight #1807
Departs Atlanta, GA at 10:35 AM
Arrives Aruba, Aruba at 2:38 PM

Total travel time: 4 h 3 m

BWI SAN via WN
Flight #130
Departs BWI at 3:25 PM
Arrives SAN at 6:15 PM
Nonstop

Total travel time : 5h 50m
I don't get it. What does San Diego have to do with a near international flying?
Proves that LUV pilot's bladders can handle "long haul" flying.
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCargo
Proves that LUV pilot's bladders can handle "long haul" flying.
I do Atlantic crossings, & I use the lav at least twice a flight. Heck the same goes for Transcons. I'll pass on kidney stones.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:10 PM
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HEY WHACKMASTER
Earlier in this post SATA 400PR complained going 4 hours ATL AUA and commented he could not go that long in SWA Coach.

My post was to just comment that it is done daily BWI SAN was just the example. SWA has a lot of flights from East Coast to West Coast the BWI SAN is just one of the longest I found.

You think that is bad try going DUB ATL on DL 767 on which everything is broken, At least on domestic SWA flight you can pay for WIFI and entertain yourself.

That also brings up the subject when SWA starts International will Row44 work since it is satellite based.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoNC
HEY WHACKMASTER
Earlier in this post SATA 400PR complained going 4 hours ATL AUA and commented he could not go that long in SWA Coach.

My post was to just comment that it is done daily BWI SAN was just the example. SWA has a lot of flights from East Coast to West Coast the BWI SAN is just one of the longest I found.

You think that is bad try going DUB ATL on DL 767 on which everything is broken, At least on domestic SWA flight you can pay for WIFI and entertain yourself.

That also brings up the subject when SWA starts International will Row44 work since it is satellite based.
Hmmmmmmm...crammed on a B737 with a single aisle from BWI-SAN and operable wifi, or a B767 twin aisle for JFK-DUB with broken IFE.........

Yup. I'll take the B767 everytime. Most people use their personal tablets and smartphones now anyways. Plus, it's nice to be able to walk to the lav while there is a cart in the other aisle.

BTW, all of DALs domestic flights have wifi, & satellite wifi starts soon. It will work globally.
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Is it true that the huge Row44 dome is a 2-3% en route fuel burn penalty?
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More like 0.3% . . .

Does carrying the Row 44 Ku-band antenna system atop its fuselages impact fuel burn? Southwest chief engineer of flight operations Brian Gleason says: “The short answer is that the effect of the winglets on our fuel burn is about ten times greater than the effect of the Wi-Fi radome. We can actually differentiate between engine performance and aircraft (or drag) performance variations. In the case of the winglets, we took data before and after the modification and found that the winglets indeed reduced the aircraft drag and improved our fuel mileage on the order of 3.5 percent. *And we did this on several aircraft just to be sure. When it came time to install the radome for the Row 44 system, we went through the same analysis on several aircraft and found that on average the combined impact of the installed equipment weight plus the drag of the radome results in approximately a 1/3 percent fuel burn penalty. *So even though it looks big, the actual impact is pretty small.”
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More like 0.3% . . .

Does carrying the Row 44 Ku-band antenna system atop its fuselages impact fuel burn? Southwest chief engineer of flight operations Brian Gleason says: “The short answer is that the effect of the winglets on our fuel burn is about ten times greater than the effect of the Wi-Fi radome. We can actually differentiate between engine performance and aircraft (or drag) performance variations. In the case of the winglets, we took data before and after the modification and found that the winglets indeed reduced the aircraft drag and improved our fuel mileage on the order of 3.5 percent. *And we did this on several aircraft just to be sure. When it came time to install the radome for the Row 44 system, we went through the same analysis on several aircraft and found that on average the combined impact of the installed equipment weight plus the drag of the radome results in approximately a 1/3 percent fuel burn penalty. *So even though it looks big, the actual impact is pretty small.”
Someone told me 3%. I know it's a big freaking zit, but it didn't look that bad. Guess they misplaced a decimal.
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