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Old 10-18-2014 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PisteOff
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I'm leaving before the transition. SL9 was far worse than SL10. Why would we have voted for 9? I hate southwest pilots. Selfish and petty. We should sue somebody.

Spot on. Bingo. Seconded. Good luck and I hope your luck turns out for the better. Be sure to let any of them that might be on your future JS know how you feel. Although, from the sound of it you're like me......I don't think you're afraid to speak your mind.

Don't forget to give ol' Gary the one finger salute on the way out and let us know if we can help you at any future point.
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Old 10-18-2014 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Spot on. Bingo. Seconded. Good luck and I hope your luck turns out for the better. Be sure to let any of them that might be on your future JS know how you feel. Although, from the sound of it you're like me......I don't think you're afraid to speak your mind.

Don't forget to give ol' Gary the one finger salute on the way out and let us know if we can help you at any future point.
Hey Whack, why don't you put your {new} money where your {big} mouth is - post your employee number so we can treat you accordingly.

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Old 10-19-2014 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 4th Level
Hey Whack, why don't you put your {new} money where your {big} mouth is - post your employee number so we can treat you accordingly.
Just ask some of the SW pilots that post here. Apparently they know who I am. Like I give a _____ if you'd have an ax to grind with me. Honestly after a paycut, loss of a third of my relative seniority, and my Cptn's seat for quite a few years after being in it for 7+ years, do you really think I care what you or anybody else thinks or has to say to me? Think about it. Most of the folks that have had to downgrade for several years will have no problem telling you where to go if you approach them with that attitude.

There's only been one Cptn that I've flown with who's been dumb enough to utter, "Well, you got a good deal (or anything along those lines)". He got a good piece of my mind followed by two days of nothing but standard calls and checklists after which he sincerely apologized.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Just ask some of the SW pilots that post here. Apparently they know who I am. Like I give a _____ if you'd have an ax to grind with me. Honestly after a paycut, loss of a third of my relative seniority, and my Cptn's seat for quite a few years after being in it for 7+ years, do you really think I care what you or anybody else thinks or has to say to me? Think about it. Most of the folks that have had to downgrade for several years will have no problem telling you where to go if you approach them with that attitude.

There's only been one Cptn that I've flown with who's been dumb enough to utter, "Well, you got a good deal (or anything along those lines)". He got a good piece of my mind followed by two days of nothing but standard calls and checklists after which he sincerely apologized.

I rest my case.

The only one I see with 'attitude' - is you.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 4th Level
I rest my case.

The only one I see with 'attitude' - is you.
Really? Go back one page on this thread and there are three other AT pilots who seem to be just as pi$$ed off as me.

I go to work and transport people safely to their destination, but that's about it. You're damned right I've got an attitude about the situation! What did you expect to happen when our seniority and Cptn seats were ripped out from under us, not to mention taking home 20% less every month? Peaches and cream?

What's unbelievable is not my or any other AT pilots attitudes, but the fact that you or any other RSW pilot have the nerve to even open your mouths about any of this. If I was in your shoes (collectively as a whole), I'd be a little more humble, take the windfall that you got and be thankful for it. Arrogant, pompous _____s.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 12:14 PM
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I completely agree. I'm honestly embarrassed to be associated with them.
Follow PiisteOff and PCL and you won't have to be associated any longer.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Really? Go back one page on this thread and there are three other AT pilots who seem to be just as pi$$ed off as me.

I go to work and transport people safely to their destination, but that's about it. You're damned right I've got an attitude about the situation! What did you expect to happen when our seniority and Cptn seats were ripped out from under us, not to mention taking home 20% less every month? Peaches and cream?

What's unbelievable is not my or any other AT pilots attitudes, but the fact that you or any other RSW pilot have the nerve to even open your mouths about any of this. If I was in your shoes (collectively as a whole), I'd be a little more humble, take the windfall that you got and be thankful for it. Arrogant, pompous _____s.
I guess you should have shared this rant with your colleagues before 83% of them voted for the deal, now it's a moot point.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 12:52 PM
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Lies, ultimatums and threats...that's how this integration was handled. Everyone involved knows that to be true. Resentment will never go away and my work ethic reflects it everyday.

SWAPA likes to blame management for the heavy handed tactics but let's not forget how a few hundred SWAPA pilots gathered in front of HQ "to stand in support of management" back in the summer of 2011 while our careers were being threatened. Phucken scumbags.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by shoelu
Follow PiisteOff and PCL and you won't have to be associated any longer.
Yeah, that's it. F__k us over then tell us to cheer up or leave. Hello wound......meet salt. Oh the irony.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by shoelu
I guess you should have shared this rant with your colleagues before 83% of them voted for the deal, now it's a moot point.
If not one AT pilot believed this to be a good deal (and in four years I have yet to find one), why did 83% vote for it? Because right or wrong they believed GK's threats of losing their jobs if they didn't vote for the second SLI.
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