You are easy to please I see. I'll wait to see it before I decide.

 

Easy to please? I'm saying that the retro at face value seems to be a fraction of what it needs to be for true full snap-up retro. I'm saying that we got royally screwed on retro unless I'm reading it wrong.

 

So all those extra trips you picked up over the last few years only amount to another 3-4% more for retro????

I keed... I keed...

Congrats on an TA.

 

I don't see that we would have a leg to stand on to get 15% 4 years ago. I want to see everything before I decide. We need to be in line with our peers.

 

section 1. No matter how shiny the rest looks.

 

What? Who had pay rates that high 4 years ago? Who got contract improvements that large 4 years ago? Remember 4 years ago most airlines were just scraping by with some losing money.

Trust me there is nothing I would like more but that is just stupid to think that 15% back pay four years ago wouldn't do anything but get laughed out of the negotiating room let alone that is something we never even asked for because it is so ridiculous.

 

Does the TA include reducing the 1,000 TPIC req by chance?

 

Wow, that's pretty awesome if true. You could make 100k not including benefits easily your first year if this is valid.


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This has been discussed ad naseum. JW has specifically addressed it several times. It's because the last NC sold us down the river by not including a pay raise on the final day of the contract. We took it in the shorts on that one. Notice this AIP has a 3% raise on the final day.

Obviously we need to let JW, CM, HK and the BOD vet this. However, at this point I am a yes vote unless something glaring arises in the vetting process. If that does happen I doubt it will be sent to us as a TA. I have full confidence that the NC is very much in touch with what is realistic.

I'm not sure why everyone is freaking out on Pprune. This AIP has final pay $5.00/HR higher than DAL's company offer. Sure it's $9.00/HR less than the platform but the platform was always a target, not a floor. Will DAL get a higher rate than us? I'm sure they will but that's theoretical right now. It's hard to tell a mediator "I know the company is offering us the highest 737 pay on record but I know Delta will get more so we want more." Throw in a 15% B fund and 100% retro, with the constraints of the missing 2012 raise, and I think the NC did great.

That's my opinion. I respect others opinions.

 

I can't tell if you're serious are not. Like hold on for a second. Let me get inside your brain. SWA TA talks about money. Let me ask the most ridiculous question that has nothing to do with money.