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Old 01-13-2017 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AVIATOR3
Does southwest take guys with only a 2 year degree? Thanks for any Info.
We have been dancing around this topic for a while and no body wants to tell those without a degree the truth. You want to make professional money? Go get a bachelors degree. It is as simple as that. The day the airlines start hiring pilots without college degrees is the day being a pilot will no longer be considered a profession. We will be tradesmen/women and treated/paid accordingly. Time to get over the butt-hurt/blue collar pride and get with the program. You want to make the same money? Get on my level bro.

It wasn't too long ago we were called "plumbers" by some of our execs and people got their noses bent out of shape over it. If you are ready to allow folks without a degree to sit on the flight deck next to you, don't forget to stick a rag in your back pocket and throw a pipe wrench in your gear bag.
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Old 01-13-2017 | 06:45 AM
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Old 01-13-2017 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RightSeat4Ever
We have been dancing around this topic for a while and no body wants to tell those without a degree the truth. You want to make professional money? Go get a bachelors degree. It is as simple as that. The day the airlines start hiring pilots without college degrees is the day being a pilot will no longer be considered a profession. We will be tradesmen/women and treated/paid accordingly. Time to get over the butt-hurt/blue collar pride and get with the program. You want to make the same money? Get on my level bro.

It wasn't too long ago we were called "plumbers" by some of our execs and people got their noses bent out of shape over it. If you are ready to allow folks without a degree to sit on the flight deck next to you, don't forget to stick a rag in your back pocket and throw a pipe wrench in your gear bag.
Hell of a statement there....bro. Give me someone with flying experience next to me that can actually fly an airplane. That would be my first priority. Are you a FNG?
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Old 01-13-2017 | 06:56 AM
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Hell of a statement there....bro. Give me someone with flying experience next to me that can actually fly an airplane. That would be my first priority. Are you a FNG?
Some one that can actually fly an airplane.....haven't run into someone here that can't, so onto your next point. Your first priority is to maximize the amount of money you can make while minimizing the amount of time it takes you to do so. I think my original post addressed this - NEXT!

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Old 01-13-2017 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RightSeat4Ever
Some one that can actually fly an airplane.....haven't run into someone here that can't, so onto your next point. Your first priority is to maximize the amount of money you can make while minimizing the amount of time it takes you to do so. I think my original post addressed this - NEXT!
It is truly intellectually dishonest to imply that anyone is hiring less than qualified individuals because they have a degree. The degree requirement has been around a very long time. An excellent pilot aspiring to fly for the airlines should have enough awareness to put the degree on the "to do list."
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Old 01-13-2017 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AVIATOR3
Does southwest take guys with only a 2 year degree? Thanks for any Info.
Yes they do, I was just offered the job after the last DB with only a 2 year, although I have been working on my 4 year and I'm just 5 classes away from obtaining it. It was my second interview and I am typed, but I'm not a chief pilot, checkairman, or any other fancy title. So there is hope, just keep updating and networking and your time will come.
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Old 01-13-2017 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by skyjockey145
Yes they do, I was just offered the job after the last DB with only a 2 year, although I have been working on my 4 year and I'm just 5 classes away from obtaining it. It was my second interview and I am typed, but I'm not a chief pilot, checkairman, or any other fancy title. So there is hope, just keep updating and networking and your time will come.
Congrats, do you think the type helped you get the interview?
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Old 01-13-2017 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Deadbone
It is truly intellectually dishonest to imply that anyone is hiring less than qualified individuals because they have a degree. The degree requirement has been around a very long time. An excellent pilot aspiring to fly for the airlines should have enough awareness to put the degree on the "to do list."

Agreed. I spent a hitch in the military to earn GI Bill benefits to pay for college. Before I left active duty, I got my A&P lic ran my own A&P shop to cover the added expenses. Since then I have earned two Master's Degrees in addition to the required licenses/ratings to be considered a professional. I have no patience for someone without at least a bachelor's degree asking to be one of my peers. To be blunt, those folks haven't earned the proper credentials to be called a professional. When we begin lowering that standard of professional expectation, we are all going suffer with lower pay and benefits. Like I said earlier, if you don't feel that having at least a BA should be required to get invited to interview, don't get bent out of shape when one of the Company execs refers to us plumbers. To say other wise is truly intellectually dishonest.
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Old 01-13-2017 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohlsan
Congrats, do you think the type helped you get the interview?
Thanks! Possibly, but only 2 out of 7 in my interview group had the type. With as much hiring as they are forecasting, I believe having the type is less important than it was back in the day.
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Old 01-13-2017 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by skyjockey145
Thanks! Possibly, but only 2 out of 7 in my interview group had the type. With as much hiring as they are forecasting, I believe having the type is less important than it was back in the day.
You know how many from your interview got the COJ?
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