Scheduling's tricks, and traps.
03-01-2017 | 03:59 PM
#13
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2 things.
Scheduling/pay will forget to add the 4:30 if your trip ends after 2am on a day off.
I'm on reserve, and a trip I got has a 35 hour layover. Per contract that means I should get an extra 4:30 credit. However when I look at the trip, it has 17ish hours flight time and only 18 hours of credit. Where is the extra credit for the 35 hour layover?
To solve the first issue, send an email to crewpay, crew scheduling, and cc'd to the ALPA base rep for pay/scheduling issues. For the second one, I haven't cracked that code yet since its the second time they did it to me and the block and credit times just don't add up.
Scheduling/pay will forget to add the 4:30 if your trip ends after 2am on a day off.
I'm on reserve, and a trip I got has a 35 hour layover. Per contract that means I should get an extra 4:30 credit. However when I look at the trip, it has 17ish hours flight time and only 18 hours of credit. Where is the extra credit for the 35 hour layover?
To solve the first issue, send an email to crewpay, crew scheduling, and cc'd to the ALPA base rep for pay/scheduling issues. For the second one, I haven't cracked that code yet since its the second time they did it to me and the block and credit times just don't add up.
03-01-2017 | 04:37 PM
#14
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From: A320 Captain
2 things.
Scheduling/pay will forget to add the 4:30 if your trip ends after 2am on a day off.
I'm on reserve, and a trip I got has a 35 hour layover. Per contract that means I should get an extra 4:30 credit. However when I look at the trip, it has 17ish hours flight time and only 18 hours of credit. Where is the extra credit for the 35 hour layover?
To solve the first issue, send an email to crewpay, crew scheduling, and cc'd to the ALPA base rep for pay/scheduling issues. For the second one, I haven't cracked that code yet since its the second time they did it to me and the block and credit times just don't add up.
Scheduling/pay will forget to add the 4:30 if your trip ends after 2am on a day off.
I'm on reserve, and a trip I got has a 35 hour layover. Per contract that means I should get an extra 4:30 credit. However when I look at the trip, it has 17ish hours flight time and only 18 hours of credit. Where is the extra credit for the 35 hour layover?
To solve the first issue, send an email to crewpay, crew scheduling, and cc'd to the ALPA base rep for pay/scheduling issues. For the second one, I haven't cracked that code yet since its the second time they did it to me and the block and credit times just don't add up.
03-01-2017 | 05:04 PM
#15
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If you are on reserve and see a trip pop up on your schedule DO NOT call in to scheduling (unless you really want to do it) to ask them about the trip before your RAP starts. This will be considered notifying youself of the trip and you will lose the duty day protections by using the new report time instead of the start of your RAP time.
03-01-2017 | 06:24 PM
#17
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2 things.
Scheduling/pay will forget to add the 4:30 if your trip ends after 2am on a day off.
I'm on reserve, and a trip I got has a 35 hour layover. Per contract that means I should get an extra 4:30 credit. However when I look at the trip, it has 17ish hours flight time and only 18 hours of credit. Where is the extra credit for the 35 hour layover?
To solve the first issue, send an email to crewpay, crew scheduling, and cc'd to the ALPA base rep for pay/scheduling issues. For the second one, I haven't cracked that code yet since its the second time they did it to me and the block and credit times just don't add up.
Scheduling/pay will forget to add the 4:30 if your trip ends after 2am on a day off.
I'm on reserve, and a trip I got has a 35 hour layover. Per contract that means I should get an extra 4:30 credit. However when I look at the trip, it has 17ish hours flight time and only 18 hours of credit. Where is the extra credit for the 35 hour layover?
To solve the first issue, send an email to crewpay, crew scheduling, and cc'd to the ALPA base rep for pay/scheduling issues. For the second one, I haven't cracked that code yet since its the second time they did it to me and the block and credit times just don't add up.
03-01-2017 | 07:18 PM
#18
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Joined: Jan 2008
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From: 319/320/321...whatever it takes.
2 things.
Scheduling/pay will forget to add the 4:30 if your trip ends after 2am on a day off.
I'm on reserve, and a trip I got has a 35 hour layover. Per contract that means I should get an extra 4:30 credit. However when I look at the trip, it has 17ish hours flight time and only 18 hours of credit. Where is the extra credit for the 35 hour layover?
To solve the first issue, send an email to crewpay, crew scheduling, and cc'd to the ALPA base rep for pay/scheduling issues. For the second one, I haven't cracked that code yet since its the second time they did it to me and the block and credit times just don't add up.
Scheduling/pay will forget to add the 4:30 if your trip ends after 2am on a day off.
I'm on reserve, and a trip I got has a 35 hour layover. Per contract that means I should get an extra 4:30 credit. However when I look at the trip, it has 17ish hours flight time and only 18 hours of credit. Where is the extra credit for the 35 hour layover?
To solve the first issue, send an email to crewpay, crew scheduling, and cc'd to the ALPA base rep for pay/scheduling issues. For the second one, I haven't cracked that code yet since its the second time they did it to me and the block and credit times just don't add up.
03-01-2017 | 07:22 PM
#19
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From: 319/320/321...whatever it takes.
If you are on reserve and see a trip pop up on your schedule DO NOT call in to scheduling (unless you really want to do it) to ask them about the trip before your RAP starts. This will be considered notifying youself of the trip and you will lose the duty day protections by using the new report time instead of the start of your RAP time.
03-01-2017 | 07:26 PM
#20
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Actually this gets a lot of people confused. It is not trip averaging. In the contract section 4 - Minimum Guarantees, item C.1.b is what you are looking at. You are paid the minimum of 4.5 hrs per duty period and 4.5 hrs for an overnight more than 22 hrs. In your case I'm sure your 4 day trip only has 3 duty periods, and the long overnight. That is what equals 18 hrs. It's not 4.5 hrs per calendar day and the overnight. It's either the block time, credit time, or the duty periods for min pay, but they don't mix. That is why we need a true min day in the next contract.
But hey these are the below standard work rules the company thinks are too expensive to get standard compensation. I'm getting really tired of hearing people tell me we have amazing work rules.
Last edited by Qotsaautopilot; 03-01-2017 at 07:56 PM.
