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Old 04-21-2017 | 09:16 AM
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Old 04-21-2017 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21
I didnt see Frontier either.


Frontier I think is still in bankruptcy rates as they are currently trying to negotiate a new contract


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Old 04-21-2017 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyondawall
So, you one of the guys that carries write ups until you get to a Mx base so you don't inconvenience the customer?
Absolutely not! I operate strickly legally and safely. This is aviation, delays are going to happen but I am not going to go out of my way to ensure they occur (like purposely heating up the brakes).

I care about our customers and I want to give them the best experience I can.
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Old 04-21-2017 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by coolyokeluke
And a few months later Hanjin went bankrupt. Not chapter 11, they dissolved, kaput. So the longshoreman would have lost out either way in Portland.

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Maybe, my point is Spirit will still need customers after the new contract so don't burn the place down in the process.
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Old 04-21-2017 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AllForTheWookie
Absolutely not! I operate strickly legally and safely. This is aviation, delays are going to happen but I am not going to go out of my way to ensure they occur (like purposely heating up the brakes).

I care about our customers and I want to give them the best experience I can.
Take the brakes, for example.

Am I going to mash them down, add power, to get them to overheat. No

Am I going to care about the temps anymore this summer, because I taxi on 2 engines, LAS is hot, and the taxi to 25R is downhill..Nope

These cheap fools didnt want to get brake fans, the spent their money on videos staring Johno and throwing parties for ukulele playing fools. So because of that, if they are at 300 degrees, so be it. Ill wait it out in the pad and get paid in the process. Oh, thats right....the company snagged our block of better per leg, so now I need to fly slow on the next leg to not lose any money.

And in the end, the passenger gets the punishment of the longer flight and maybe a misconnect because of waiting on brakes to cool down.

Suck for them, but like I have said before, this is the game Management wants. Anyone still enabling them by calling for paperwork, picking up trips, Standing Avail list, letting the plane roll to 40 kts before applying brakes, is just enabling this company and their actions.

Retaining customers should be the furthest thing from this pilot group's mind right now. This is not our problem. Once we have a respectful contract I will go back to caring about the product.
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Old 04-21-2017 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GravyTracker
Take the brakes, for example.

Am I going to mash them down, add power, to get them to overheat. No

Am I going to care about the temps anymore this summer, because I taxi on 2 engines, LAS is hot, and the taxi to 25R is downhill..Nope

These cheap fools didnt want to get brake fans, the spent their money on videos staring Johno and throwing parties for ukulele playing fools. So because of that, if they are at 300 degrees, so be it. Ill wait it out in the pad and get paid in the process. Oh, thats right....the company snagged our block of better per leg, so now I need to fly slow on the next leg to not lose any money.

And in the end, the passenger gets the punishment of the longer flight and maybe a misconnect because of waiting on brakes to cool down.

Suck for them, but like I have said before, this is the game Management wants. Anyone still enabling them by calling for paperwork, picking up trips, Standing Avail list, letting the plane roll to 40 kts before applying brakes, is just enabling this company and their actions.

Retaining customers should be the furthest thing from this pilot group's mind right now. This is not our problem. Once we have a respectful contract I will go back to caring about the product.
I agree with you 99% but in regards to the passengers they are still a top priority for me. Once a new contract is reached the pilot group will need the customers to be buying tickets to pay salaries.
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Old 04-22-2017 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AllForTheWookie
I agree with you 99% but in regards to the passengers they are still a top priority for me. Once a new contract is reached the pilot group will need the customers to be buying tickets to pay salaries.
So are you going to cross the picket line when we strike just because you care about the passengers? Just stop, maybe we'll get a contract without striking.
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Old 04-22-2017 | 06:11 AM
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Multiple delays in the system today. Delayed several hours because of no crews, specifically pilots.👍
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Old 04-22-2017 | 09:31 AM
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I believe, we will all do our best in not delivering hot brakes during swaps.
However you will not hear any complaints from me, if I walk into a hot brakes AC.
Now if the APU is off, and it's hot, that's a different story.
This summer let's take good care of our valued customers and each other, by delivering nicely cooled AC.
Personally, my optimal temp is 68-70F.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-22-2017 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by zippinbye
No doubt, you guys are underpaid!

On the positive side, Spirit has never had to beat up a guy, dragging him out of a "pre-reclined for your comfort seat!" Perhaps the opposite has occurred and we haven't heard about it?

In ops and everything forward of the flight deck door, I have nothing but respect for the Spirit team. In the main cabin, well ... you get what you pay for.

As an outsider who's had quite a few colleagues cycle through Spirit, I have never expected you all to get compensation to the level that would be on par with industry standard. But you deserve way more. Keep up the good fight!
You won't see a TA here until industry standard is negotiated...
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