I didn't necessarily mean flows, I was more talking about systems, automation philosophy and the like. There is plenty of material available out there for that. For example, there is an oral exam video from UAL that I, for one, found very helpful. SmartCockpit - Airline training guides, Aviation, Operations, Safety has all the systems stuff. I'm not saying NK couldn't do more to help new hires, my point is more that one can prepare him/herself better, should one so desire. Now, I'll fully admit to being somewhat of an airplane nerd who's spent time on smartcockpit just for fun, but still...

That is terrible, this idea.

To the contrary, I rarely fly with anyone who is content and most are looking to move on. Everyone recognizes the toxic moral that comes from the constant operational failures, lack of contract, and poor customer treatment. Concerns for the future too. You can only run a crap operation for so long before it backfires, ala Ryan Air's recent implosion.

Really dude? The COMPANY should provide the new hires with the appropriate content and ample time for them to study prior to coming. Scratch that... the company should provide new hires a realistic timeline and training structure starting on their first day of training that allows success without studying prior to starting class. Stop being a d-bag and making excuses for this place.

The moral isn't all that bad here. I actually enjoy working for Spirit. Yeah the contract negotiations are frustrating and we deserve a lot more pay but that will come. I and others do not want to go to United, Delta, etc. Don't follow all the doom and gloom from frustrated internet warriors. Go out and actually talk to Spirit pilots. Yes training is intense but study and you will do fine. I wish our management could run this airline like Southwest and that is my dream that this place could be the future Southwest.

Ok first of all, SPIRIT WILL NEVER BE SOUTHWEST....... EVER.


Also, based on the morale comment, im not sure we work for the same airline lol

I agree with chimpy on this one. You also lose credibility with a handle like gravy choker. But the moral comment is where your WAY off! I'm a pretty "happy-go lucky" kinda guy yet my moral is in the toilet right now, as is every pilot I fly with........

Yea and the company is gonna crack just you wait! Any day now!

Why's the moralE in the toilet when you'RE doing so much winning?

Do people lose credibility if they have a hard time composing an error free sentence?

He's not very "happy go lucky" either. He's one of the biggest A holes on here.