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Old 05-12-2017 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One
Of course. And we all know that. Yet internet trolls still exist, even on APC. (Shocking, I know.)

Here's the difference: And please correct me if I'm wrong.

These past campaigns that are mentioned in the same breath as our "alleged" campaign... These were not done on Social Media. These "harassments" had to be done IN PERSON! In the crew rooms, in the jetways, in the terminal. TO YOUR FACE! AirlinePilotCentral, Whatsapp, etc, did not exist to give the Trolls the ability to harass others from their computers.

I don't see how a message board, which anyone can join, anyone can post, and anyone can troll, pilot or not, can be held to the same standards.
I forget what union was involved but in one of "campaigns " all the company had to do was show that pilots had not been picking up open time at the same rate the company was historically accustom with . Court found that the union was in violation for whats called "status ".
FYI the only underground movement I have ever seen really work was NWA's BOB. BOB was an acronym for Block or Better. Jr guys started it, flew and taxied around real slow..Got management attention for sure .It was all word of mouth.
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Old 05-12-2017 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One
Of course. And we all know that. Yet internet trolls still exist, even on APC. (Shocking, I know.)

Here's the difference: And please correct me if I'm wrong.

These past campaigns that are mentioned in the same breath as our "alleged" campaign... These were not done on Social Media. These "harassments" had to be done IN PERSON! In the crew rooms, in the jetways, in the terminal. TO YOUR FACE! AirlinePilotCentral, Whatsapp, etc, did not exist to give the Trolls the ability to harass others from their computers.

I don't see how a message board, which anyone can join, anyone can post, and anyone can troll, pilot or not, can be held to the same standards.
It certainly was in the case of Delta. Emails and message board posts were the companies prime evidence. The judge did agree the no overtime campaign was not union sponsored in any way but ruled the union had a duty to control its membership.
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Old 05-14-2017 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It certainly was in the case of Delta. Emails and message board posts were the companies prime evidence. The judge did agree the no overtime campaign was not union sponsored in any way but ruled the union had a duty to control its membership.
The underlying message is that if ALPA can't or won't control its members, the court will give the company the ability to do so (i.e. terminations).
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