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Old 05-09-2017 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FAULTPUSH
What the #$% are you smoking, dude?

Which gets back to the question you couldn't answer. Point to a time when this kind of work action has succeeded.
Not answering your phone on a GDO is NOT a work action.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Not answering your phone on a GDO is NOT a work action.
It is when the group as a whole changes their behaviour in a way that is detrimental to the company. Unless your personal opinion actually matters in court - I suspect it doesn't.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 08:52 AM
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I'm in the middle of 10 days off in a row. They called around 6am Saturday morning, but I didn't hear it. I haven't had a call since.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FAULTPUSH
It is when the group as a whole changes their behaviour in a way that is detrimental to the company. Unless your personal opinion actually matters in court - I suspect it doesn't.
It's summer time. The wx is getting nice. Days off become more valuable than in say February.

Block hours went up and attrition went up and spare airplanes are parked with covers on the engines and some bad wx rolled through some key cites last week with no planes or empty seats to pick up the slack. This is a product of that not a work action. We've seen this before here.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 09:12 AM
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[QUOTE=Qotsaautopilot;2360410]Everyone I know has been at work as scheduled.[/QUOTE


Exactly, can't force guys to work on days off..
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Old 05-09-2017 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Not answering your phone on a GDO is NOT a work action.
For somebody else to decide but your management's argument appears to be something like, "We can statistically show that prior to threats being made by other pilots, we had X amount of people picking up trips and answering phones....now after this action, they don't pick up anymore."

I agree I don't know how a judge can get inside one's head about when they prefer to stay home and play golf vs go out and work.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 02:09 PM
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Was off several days in a row, exactly zero calls. What work action? This was deliberate on the company's part. We should sue them for work action

I emailed my evidence of no calls on days off to the union folks, as should you . Don't forget a screenshot of your schedule showing the days off.

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Old 05-09-2017 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Drofdeb
Was off several days in a row, exactly zero calls. What work action? This was deliberate on the company's part. We should sue them for work action
The MEC is looking for proof that they didn't call everyone, please email the MEC and tell them.

I agree, we should counter-sue. Their incompetence caused a meltdown, and it would have happened without APC or the SPACHOKER's website.

I hate to do it, but I'm gonna start applying the the big 3 and Fed Ex and UPS. It's just going to get worse around here.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 02:16 PM
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If you've been off for multiple days in a row during this meltdown and have not received a single call from scheduling, make sure you get in touch with your ALPA rep. They would very much like to hear from you.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 06:55 PM
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There should be a counter suit.

Pilots (even en-mass) who decide to all of a sudden not pick up open time cannot determine causality for a work action.

The weather is getting nicer, people value their time off more during this period of the year, or whatever you else you can think of.

The company is filing their lawsuit based on a false dichotomy: "Pilots aren't picking up open time as much, therefore job action." When you challenge the premise, there is no longer any argument. Any intelligent judge should be able to see this.

Scumbags.
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