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05-09-2017 | 07:09 PM
#61
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There should be a counter suit.
Pilots (even en-mass) who decide to all of a sudden not pick up open time cannot determine causality for a work action.
The weather is getting nicer, people value their time off more during this period of the year, or whatever you else you can think of.
The company is filing their lawsuit based on a false dichotomy: "Pilots aren't picking up open time as much, therefore job action." When you challenge the premise, there is no longer any argument. Any intelligent judge should be able to see this.
Scumbags.
Pilots (even en-mass) who decide to all of a sudden not pick up open time cannot determine causality for a work action.
The weather is getting nicer, people value their time off more during this period of the year, or whatever you else you can think of.
The company is filing their lawsuit based on a false dichotomy: "Pilots aren't picking up open time as much, therefore job action." When you challenge the premise, there is no longer any argument. Any intelligent judge should be able to see this.
Scumbags.
Hopefully they can't prove or don't sue for damages.
AA was awarded 45 million from the APA. More than the union could afford.
Nearly half was paid back and the balance forgiven in the form of new contract concessions.
Best of luck.
05-09-2017 | 07:33 PM
#62
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Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 25
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Not a Spirit guy, but support you guys 100%. We (ABX Pilots) were sued last fall by the company for not flying on days off. The judge ruled in our favor on that one. We were never instructed by anyone in our union not to fly overtime.
05-09-2017 | 07:47 PM
#64
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One does not have to fly overtime, one simply may not suggest that others not fly overtime. If the majority of pilots happen to come to the same personal conclusion (whatever that may be), then it is coincidental, and not the fault of the union or those members that have reached said conclusion of their own volition.
05-09-2017 | 08:11 PM
#65
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Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 778
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From: A320 CA
As I see it, it's a bunch of posts by random people hiding behind screen names.
"Internet toughguys," "Keyboard Warriors," "Trolls." Just a few names they can be called. Can a lawsuit be won against Internet Trolls?
"Internet toughguys," "Keyboard Warriors," "Trolls." Just a few names they can be called. Can a lawsuit be won against Internet Trolls?
05-09-2017 | 08:25 PM
#66
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Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,690
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From: 60’s Tech, Right
How do we know that it was indeed a Spirit pilot and not a member of management laying the seeds for this mess??
05-09-2017 | 08:36 PM
#67
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Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,288
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From: B756 FO
I really hope you guys won't suffer too much due to the actions of a few absolute bone heads. Your pilot group deserves better than this.
05-09-2017 | 09:22 PM
#68
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Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 246
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From: Reverse cowgirl
I hope the fact that your scumbag management has publicly blamed a majority of your cancellations on "weather" crosses the judges bench... what a joke. Vote of no confidence on these scum bags.
05-11-2017 | 11:03 AM
#69
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For the Spirit pilot's benefit, I hope that many of the inflammatory posts are from strangers. An interesting twist in the TRO is that it's levied against all ALPA represented pilots. That may or may not be an over site.
05-11-2017 | 02:56 PM
#70
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Joined: Apr 2016
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From: A320 CA
Here's the difference: And please correct me if I'm wrong.
These past campaigns that are mentioned in the same breath as our "alleged" campaign... These were not done on Social Media. These "harassments" had to be done IN PERSON! In the crew rooms, in the jetways, in the terminal. TO YOUR FACE! AirlinePilotCentral, Whatsapp, etc, did not exist to give the Trolls the ability to harass others from their computers.
I don't see how a message board, which anyone can join, anyone can post, and anyone can troll, pilot or not, can be held to the same standards.
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