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05-09-2017 | 05:34 PM
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I hope you dont honestly think you are going to get UAL or DAL type contract and money. Those contracts are decades in the making and are a completely different Airline than Spirit or even Frontier or Allegiant. I think if you look at the new Allegiant contract that is whats coming. The hourely rate bost will have work rule sacrafises mark my words!!!
05-09-2017 | 05:47 PM
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I hope you dont honestly think you are going to get UAL or DAL type contract and money. Those contracts are decades in the making and are a completely different Airline than Spirit or even Frontier or Allegiant. I think if you look at the new Allegiant contract that is whats coming. The hourely rate bost will have work rule sacrafises mark my words!!!
You have to really make it worth people's time to fly over-time. I have passed on 3k overtime trips if it doesn't work out for me. I may reconsider the time-value calculus for more money.
On the other hand, it's all about the staffing. If you have lots of uncovered trips when the schedules are published who do you think is going to fly them?
And still on the other hand, if you don't fight for what you want, you won't get it.
The mandatory reading email that ALPA sent out had to be sent. Message sent, message received.
05-09-2017 | 05:50 PM
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05-09-2017 | 05:50 PM
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I hope you dont honestly think you are going to get UAL or DAL type contract and money. Those contracts are decades in the making and are a completely different Airline than Spirit or even Frontier or Allegiant. I think if you look at the new Allegiant contract that is whats coming. The hourely rate bost will have work rule sacrafises mark my words!!!
05-09-2017 | 06:35 PM
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I hope you dont honestly think you are going to get UAL or DAL type contract and money. Those contracts are decades in the making and are a completely different Airline than Spirit or even Frontier or Allegiant. I think if you look at the new Allegiant contract that is whats coming. The hourely rate bost will have work rule sacrafises mark my words!!!
Hey Mr first post ever/ford and Harrison/spirit manager
That's essentially what they just proposed and it's a nonstarter. Allegiant is having major buyers remorse knowing they will be stuck with that nonsense into 2024 when the big four start renegotiating agin in 2019.
Allegiant also doesn't fly the same routes as us
05-09-2017 | 06:38 PM
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Frontier is on a bankruptcy contract. Not even worth comparing. Not to mention a private company that we have no idea of profitability on and a (dare I say) more anti-pilot management than ours. Not a comparison- period!
05-09-2017 | 07:16 PM
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I hope you dont honestly think you are going to get UAL or DAL type contract and money. Those contracts are decades in the making and are a completely different Airline than Spirit or even Frontier or Allegiant. I think if you look at the new Allegiant contract that is whats coming. The hourely rate bost will have work rule sacrafises mark my words!!!
05-09-2017 | 07:21 PM
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I'm lurking over here because I'm trying to follow the injunction proceedings, but if you'll allow me to interject... with regard to the "peers" comparison or my goals regarding "industry standard" pay and work rules, I consider any pilot in the US who flys a jet carrying between 150 to 230 passengers to be my peer.
My Company's business plan is irrelevant to me. If a Legacy A320 pilot makes $xxx per hour, why in the wide wide world of airlines should I make less because the management at my airline has decided on a *MORE* profitable business model?
Sorry for the intrusion, but I always bristle when I see posts that seem to accept the notion that the Ultra Low Cost portion of ULCC must also apply to pilot wages. FWIW, I'm sure management would agree with this notion. :-/
My Company's business plan is irrelevant to me. If a Legacy A320 pilot makes $xxx per hour, why in the wide wide world of airlines should I make less because the management at my airline has decided on a *MORE* profitable business model?
Sorry for the intrusion, but I always bristle when I see posts that seem to accept the notion that the Ultra Low Cost portion of ULCC must also apply to pilot wages. FWIW, I'm sure management would agree with this notion. :-/
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