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If we vote yes we start the clock on negotiating for the next contract to get even more gains. If we vote no, we likely will have to wait 2 years just to get a similar TA. I'm not willing to be out of the cash for another 2 years and push the next contract down the road 2 years or more.
I always vote no on everything. This time I'm voting yes because this is the best deal we can get and a no vote will keep us at this low pay for a very long time.
But ya kno wat I am seeng from dis post....lets hurry up and vote this contract in so dat we can start the clock for a next contract to get something better on dat contract....wait wait wait, why not get something better now while the market is good for it? Aint now di best time? Wat gaurantee do you guys/gals have to say ull have the same leverage you have now?Originally Posted by Green Giant
I understand the outside opinions and largely agree with them. However this is Spirit with our own set of issues.If we vote yes we start the clock on negotiating for the next contract to get even more gains. If we vote no, we likely will have to wait 2 years just to get a similar TA. I'm not willing to be out of the cash for another 2 years and push the next contract down the road 2 years or more.
I always vote no on everything. This time I'm voting yes because this is the best deal we can get and a no vote will keep us at this low pay for a very long time.
At the same time wat guarantee do you have that it will be 1 or 2 years b4 TA2 comes out?, wat if it TA2 comes 4 months after voting down TA1?(this where ill get laughed at cuz y'all will say obviously I dont know spirit, but wat IF? a
Am I speculating now?) A lot of speculations drive uninformed decisions. I understand Greeny point though, makes sense looking at it that way, cuz u can sit on something thats ok (scope, ltd, etc) while being more patience through the next neg. But ya cant look at it only dat way.
And its not only Greeny that has this 1 to 2 year expectation for TA2 thats driving his/her decision to vote YES on a highlight.
Okie im talking too much again.
Speechless after muddling through this guys thoughts. You are exactly what other pilots thinks of spirit pilots...uneducated clowns flying for the lowest tiered airline carrying around the parolees and miscrients of our society. Christ man, my 5 year old can formulate better sentences than you with correct spelling at that.
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At the same time wat guarantee do you have that it will be 1 or 2 years b4 TA2 comes out?, wat if it TA2 comes 4 months after voting down TA1?(this where ill get laughed at cuz y'all will say obviously I dont know spirit, but wat IF? a
Am I speculating now?) A lot of speculations drive uninformed decisions. I understand Greeny point though, makes sense looking at it that way, cuz u can sit on something thats ok (scope, ltd, etc) while being more patience through the next neg. But ya cant look at it only dat way.
And its not only Greeny that has this 1 to 2 year expectation for TA2 thats driving his/her decision to vote YES on a highlight.
Okie im talking too much again.
Originally Posted by MGMTiswatchingU
But ya kno wat I am seeng from dis post....lets hurry up and vote this contract in so dat we can start the clock for a next contract to get something better on dat contract....wait wait wait, why not get something better now while the market is good for it? Aint now di best time? Wat gaurantee do you guys/gals have to say ull have the same leverage you have now?At the same time wat guarantee do you have that it will be 1 or 2 years b4 TA2 comes out?, wat if it TA2 comes 4 months after voting down TA1?(this where ill get laughed at cuz y'all will say obviously I dont know spirit, but wat IF? a
Am I speculating now?) A lot of speculations drive uninformed decisions. I understand Greeny point though, makes sense looking at it that way, cuz u can sit on something thats ok (scope, ltd, etc) while being more patience through the next neg. But ya cant look at it only dat way.
And its not only Greeny that has this 1 to 2 year expectation for TA2 thats driving his/her decision to vote YES on a highlight.
Okie im talking too much again.
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you get that this post is a joke right? He purposely spelled things that wayOriginally Posted by Karloffstall
Speechless after muddling through this guys thoughts. You are exactly what other pilots thinks of spirit pilots...uneducated clowns flying for the lowest tiered airline carrying around the parolees and miscrients of our society. Christ man, my 5 year old can formulate better sentences than you with correct spelling at that.
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It’s getting tired. When a joke gets a lot of wear and tear it kills itOriginally Posted by king10pin02
you get that this post is a joke right? He purposely spelled things that way
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But you all got my point though? I might be misspelling but there is a point there. Some like to correct others (which sometime is needed), hence I gave those folks that opportunity while trying to bring a point acrossOriginally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
It’s getting tired. When a joke gets a lot of wear and tear it kills it
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And when it comes to my thoughts on Spirit pilots.....you are very inaccurate. I am hoping for industry standard across the board cuz you guys deserve it. I am even thinking of Spirit as an option IF the contract is up to par, since Id like a FLL base. So I think nothing bad of Spirit pilots.Originally Posted by Karloffstall
Speechless after muddling through this guys thoughts. You are exactly what other pilots thinks of spirit pilots...uneducated clowns flying for the lowest tiered airline carrying around the parolees and miscrients of our society. Christ man, my 5 year old can formulate better sentences than you with correct spelling at that.
Wat had bothered me was the fact that guys are making decisions on highlights. See my previous qoute on Green Giant for example.
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pre·ten·tiousOriginally Posted by Karloffstall
Speechless after muddling through this guys thoughts. You are exactly what other pilots thinks of spirit pilots...uneducated clowns flying for the lowest tiered airline carrying around the parolees and miscrients of our society. Christ man, my 5 year old can formulate better sentences than you with correct spelling at that.
adjective
attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.
"a pretentious literary device"
synonyms: affected, ostentatious, showy;
See---Karloffstall
CONGRATS on getting the AIP! 
just remember this because this thing will pass. when the next recession hits, and it will, you will be taking a 30% pay cut. you are giving up your work rules/quality of life for a pay raise. remember, alpa lobbied hard to give away time and a half on work days off last contract. that's who we're dealing with. one more thing, i don't want to hear ONE yes voter complain about getting 'rescheduled', fly it and grieve it....so don't make plans on your days off...
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You misspelled “miscreant”, genius.Originally Posted by Karloffstall
Speechless after muddling through this guys thoughts. You are exactly what other pilots thinks of spirit pilots...uneducated clowns flying for the lowest tiered airline carrying around the parolees and miscrients of our society. Christ man, my 5 year old can formulate better sentences than you with correct spelling at that.
