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Old 02-12-2018 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
I can’t wait to dig up this thread a couple of months from now if turns out to be true.

I thought it to be a little far fetched but it came from somebody that has in past been “in the know”.
Not a Spirit guy but the process simply does not work this way. If there is a better second TA why would your MEC ever even consider the first one? You would move right to the second one. No company would ever negotiate that way in the first place. It would be stupid.
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Old 02-12-2018 | 08:58 AM
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Not a Spirit guy but the process simply does not work this way. If there is a better second TA why would your MEC ever even consider the first one? You would move right to the second one. No company would ever negotiate that way in the first place. It would be stupid.
You are right. I shouldn’t have used the term TA. It was explained to me that the proposed drafting for a section 25 that would swing the vote to pass TA2 is already done.

My only guess as to why this would be done is if the NC is having doubts on the success of TA1.
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Old 02-12-2018 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
You are right. I shouldn’t have used the term TA. It was explained to me that the proposed drafting for a section 25 that would swing the vote to pass TA2 is already done.

My only guess as to why this would be done is if the NC is having doubts on the success of TA1.
They can write whatever they want, doesn’t mean the company has to agree to it. Plus if this fails the company can seek to change sections that they might be having buyers remorse over.
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Old 02-12-2018 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
One of our union reps that recently visited the school house was over heard stating that a second T/A has already been drafted that includes less concessions in section 25. The leadership has identified hot topics items that could be the cause for the potential failure of TA1. What is unknown is how bad the company wants this deal done and at what costs. The NMB will continue talks after a cooling down period.

Full disclosure: This is second hand rumor.
Wow, peeps must be getting so desperate, so partisan, politics over group, that they have to start fear mongering rumors. Amazeballs!
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Old 02-12-2018 | 01:20 PM
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Wow, peeps must be getting so desperate, so partisan, politics over group, that they have to start fear mongering rumors. Amazeballs!
I don’t understand the fear mongering part.

How is it fear mongering?
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Old 02-12-2018 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
I don’t understand the fear mongering part.

How is it fear mongering?
I suggest taking a longggggg break from APC.
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Old 02-12-2018 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
One of our union reps that recently visited the school house was over heard stating that a second T/A has already been drafted that includes less concessions in section 25. The leadership has identified hot topics items that could be the cause for the potential failure of TA1. What is unknown is how bad the company wants this deal done and at what costs. The NMB will continue talks after a cooling down period.

Full disclosure: This is second hand rumor.
Fake news.
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Old 02-12-2018 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
I suggest taking a longggggg break from APC.
90% of what is posted on APC is rumor.

Some turn out to be true and some are completely fabricated.
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Old 02-12-2018 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
90% of what is posted on APC is rumor.

Some turn out to be true and some are completely fabricated.

Such as your statement ....... completely fabricated and has no chance of truth.
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Old 02-12-2018 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shrek
Such as your statement ....... completely fabricated and has no chance of truth.
Which statement are you referring to?
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