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02-14-2018 | 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SourGrapes

i don't understand, contract 2010 says if other employee groups gets profit sharing/bonus we get the same thing. how come we didn't get included in profit sharing?

Nobody got profit sharing that I’m aware of

02-14-2018 | 10:51 AM

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i don't understand, contract 2010 says if other employee groups gets profit sharing/bonus we get the same thing. how come we didn't get included in profit sharing?

I think you misunderstood what I meant. I was trying to say management agreed to the FAs "me too clause" because it would make it much more difficult (cost more negotiating capital) for the pilots to obtain it come negotiation time. Does that make sense?

02-14-2018 | 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW

There isn't much we can do? We could vote NO and demand it.

Go for it. Vote no if you like

02-14-2018 | 10:53 AM

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It not only makes sense, it was brilliant. Almost like when they lied about the IPO in 2010.

02-14-2018 | 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW

It not only makes sense, it was brilliant. Almost like when they lied about the IPO in 2010.

I agree. It was very smart but, of course, sucks for us

02-14-2018 | 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

Nobody got profit sharing that I’m aware of

oh i forgot, they call it performance bonuses...it's only for employees whom are responsible for performance....my bad, performance and profit both start with a P

02-14-2018 | 11:04 AM

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Look, I get that the F/As have a “me too clause” but would giving them “the face of the airline” a few grand in profit sharing be so bad? Mgmt played them brilliantly, they made the F/As give up something for a “Me too” clause that mgmt knew they would throw in our faces come negotiations. The icing on the cake for mgmt? The Pilots blaming the F/As for lack of PS, lol.

It ISNT THE F/As keeping us from Profit sharing, its MANAGEMENT

Should the " face of an airline " get a chunk of profit? Yes they should but most of them don't give a crap about service and choose to give it as rarely as possible. I don't blame the FA's for the fact that we will never have PS. Management played them in the forehand and played us in the backhand. As smart and important as we as pilots want to think we are, management will beat us every day in every event we take part in. They're pieces of Sht but they don't get paid millions of dollars per year because their stupid, no matter how much we want to believe that.

02-14-2018 | 11:07 AM

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oh i forgot, they call it performance bonuses...it's only for employees whom are responsible for performance....my bad, performance and profit both start with a P

Are you a LAS CA? First name start with D? Just saying that's the only person at Spirit who in person who seems to be as angry as you are everyday.

02-14-2018 | 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

Are you a LAS CA? First name start with D? Just saying that's the only person at Spirit who in person who seems to be as angry as you are everyday.

negative, keep guessing though, be careful about your financial well being calling people out by name thou....there's still hundreds of pilots who were screwed over by alpa on this subject. i assure u there are several persons still pis_sed about it.....granted not the majority since the majority here have been hired post contract 2010/IPO

02-14-2018 | 11:27 AM

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negative, keep guessing though, there's still hundreds of pilots who were screwed over by alpa on this subject. i assure u there are several persons still pis_sed about it.....granted not the majority since the majority here have been hired post contract 2010/IPO

I'm sorry but if you feel like you got hosed by ALPA in 2010 by being awarded "OK" pay at the time ( recession ) and also industry destroying work rules I don't know how you will ever be satisfied. I think if you were offered $400 per hour with a 10 hour min day you would still have a problem with it. Given the landscape of the times I would totally understand if you call the current TA a piece of crap, but 2010? I imagine if furloughed do to issues in the economy you would cry to keep your job like snot nosed 6 year old. Oh wait....... burn this POS to the ground right? Something tells me you have always been the most ungrateful glass half empty person in the room your whole life.