Originally Posted by wt93205 (Post 2528764)

In all seriousness, I have seen MEC's recommend a TA for vote and then regretted by the pilot group for voting it in. So yes. MEC's are not always right in what they think. They can be wrong. I think your MEC is wrong this time. That is why some TA's get voted down, new members get elected, new TA's get negotiated, then passed when the pilot group thinks they have a fair deal. I think this is the best time ever to get a TA, and another year is worth the wait. Take it to a strike again if you have too to get what you want including the additional retro.

Originally Posted by wt93205 (Post 2528752)

The kool aid is strong in this one! :D

Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2528767)

were the profit predictions we were given pre or post corporate tax reform?

Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 2528771)

I know it’s hard, but try and listen to the experts.

Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 2528771)

Profit predictions are done as a pre-tax margin, therefore the tax reform doesn’t change anything. If you listen to Q&A’s or attend a roadshow, you would know why the tax reform argument doesn’t work. Spirit basically pays zero cash tax, due to growth and aircraft deliveries.

I know it’s hard, but try and listen to the experts.

Originally Posted by wt93205 (Post 2528764)

In all seriousness, I have seen MEC's recommend a TA for vote and then regretted by the pilot group for voting it in. So yes. MEC's are not always right in what they think. They can be wrong. I think your MEC is wrong this time. That is why some TA's get voted down, new members get elected, new TA's get negotiated, then passed when the pilot group thinks they have a fair deal. To say they know best because they know all the numbers and have been around a long time is foolish. I think this is the best time ever to get a TA, and another year is worth the wait. Take it to a strike again if you have too to get what you want including the additional retro.

Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 2528768)

Boy when you guys get a TA in 2020 over at frontier you will be in for a real shocker.

Originally Posted by Tjamaica (Post 2528778)

All sounds great but how do you know it will go down like that? Take it to a strike? Seriously, are you even on this planet right now? It is not that easy but you already knew that...

Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 2528771)

Profit predictions are done as a pre-tax margin, therefore the tax reform doesn’t change anything. If you listen to Q&A’s or attend a roadshow, you would know why the tax reform argument doesn’t work. Spirit basically pays zero cash tax, due to growth and aircraft deliveries.

I know it’s hard, but try and listen to the experts.

Originally Posted by wt93205 (Post 2528781)

You are mistaken son! I won't be that shocked we are getting paid more then Spirit in 2020! No PBS either! Whoo hooo! :D