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Old 03-02-2018 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Yetifan
Good job setting up the Frontier guys for failure and lowering the bar even further!
Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.
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Old 03-02-2018 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Alphafloor
Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.
Spirit pilots ratify an industry trailing TA.

One poster points out that this drags down the negotiating environment for them and everyone else.

Spirit pilots respond with

“Was it your Mom (not me) or your Dad that didn't give you enough love...”

“Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.”

This is all coming together now.
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Old 03-02-2018 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Yetifan
Good job setting up the Frontier guys for failure and lowering the bar even further!
Actually we raised the bar. Top pay at the end of the contract is $260 at year 12. I guess you are mad because you don't think your contract will be as good.

My advice to have faith. I was surprised and I would not be at all surprised if F9 new contract will have similar or even higher pay.
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Old 03-02-2018 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Giant
Actually we raised the bar. Top pay at the end of the contract is $260 at year 12. I guess you are mad because you don't think your contract will be as good.

My advice to have faith. I was surprised and I would not be at all surprised if F9 new contract will have similar or even higher pay.
Don’t even bother. “Yetifan” has a loooooong post history of being miserable. Hes just angry hes stuck in the right seat forever at Alaska.
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Old 03-02-2018 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Feng
Spirit pilots ratify an industry trailing TA.

One poster points out that this drags down the negotiating environment for them and everyone else.

Spirit pilots respond with

“Was it your Mom (not me) or your Dad that didn't give you enough love...”

“Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.”

This is all coming together now.
Let me add to it....

Your mom and I are coming together after a lovely seafood dinner.
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Old 03-02-2018 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
To keep it simple, Delta pays 50 percent of your salary until 65 years old. They give 32 percent of disability payment into 401k (keeps retirement whole). Almost all pilots subsidize this with DPMA which keeps your pay whole for the first year on long term disability.
Delta's plan is the best in the business. It has no cap (Spirit's cap is $15k) and has no offsets (for other sources of disability insurance or even other work income after three years disabled). But Spirit's new one is pretty good overall.
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Old 03-02-2018 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Don’t even bother. “Yetifan” has a loooooong post history of being miserable. Hes just angry hes stuck in the right seat forever at Alaska.


Be careful with talking trash like that. A few short years ago you were a permanent FO at xjt with no future and were looking for any life line that was tossed your way even outside of the Airlines. I’m pretty sure you took the first job offered. I’m glad it worked out for you, I really am.

Honest question here and I’m not trying to be a jerk, but how exactly is this TA raising the bar? Parts of it yes but as a whole it appears mediocre to me so I must be missing something. It seems you took some QOL hits in order to get higher rates. You got scope which is great and totally worth it in my opinion but the hourly rates still seem low for the first few years.

I’m a VX/AS guy who is unfortunately now part of one of the most spineless pilots groups around and we just got our a$$ handed to us in arbitration so I’m not trying to act like I’m above any of you, I’m curious and trying to educate myself.
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Old 03-02-2018 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Feng
Spirit pilots ratify an industry trailing TA.

One poster points out that this drags down the negotiating environment for them and everyone else.

Spirit pilots respond with

“Was it your Mom (not me) or your Dad that didn't give you enough love...”

“Clearly you were not breast fed as a child.”

This is all coming together now.
What a stupid post! Your on APC dumbass! Are you suggesting this type of rhetoric only comes from Spirit pilots? ok then.......
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Old 03-02-2018 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OCCP
Be careful with talking trash like that. A few short years ago you were a permanent FO at xjt with no future and were looking for any life line that was tossed your way even outside of the Airlines. I’m pretty sure you took the first job offered. I’m glad it worked out for you, I really am.

Honest question here and I’m not trying to be a jerk, but how exactly is this TA raising the bar? Parts of it yes but as a whole it appears mediocre to me so I must be missing something. It seems you took some QOL hits in order to get higher rates. You got scope which is great and totally worth it in my opinion but the hourly rates still seem low for the first few years.

I’m a VX/AS guy who is unfortunately now part of one of the most spineless pilots groups around and we just got our a$$ handed to us in arbitration so I’m not trying to act like I’m above any of you, I’m curious and trying to educate myself.
"Careful with trash talking"?, lol what? are you serious? Go back and read "yetis" posts. He's incredibly angry and condescending with every single post he makes. He comes on this thread and "thanks us for lowering the Bar"............. I didn't go on Alaska's Arbitration Outcome thread and Trash talk anyone or "Thank them" for lowering the bar..............
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Old 03-02-2018 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OCCP
Be careful with talking trash like that. A few short years ago you were a permanent FO at xjt with no future and were looking for any life line that was tossed your way even outside of the Airlines. I’m pretty sure you took the first job offered. I’m glad it worked out for you, I really am.

Honest question here and I’m not trying to be a jerk, but how exactly is this TA raising the bar? Parts of it yes but as a whole it appears mediocre to me so I must be missing something. It seems you took some QOL hits in order to get higher rates. You got scope which is great and totally worth it in my opinion but the hourly rates still seem low for the first few years.

I’m a VX/AS guy who is unfortunately now part of one of the most spineless pilots groups around and we just got our a$$ handed to us in arbitration so I’m not trying to act like I’m above any of you, I’m curious and trying to educate myself.


This ta doesn’t raise the bar for anything, there isn’t one single item in it that’s “industry leading” only reason folks voted for this is because of the bonus they offered (IMO). I do feel for the guys at Frontier and JB as this won’t help them at all, considering we voted in basically JB rates

*edit took out the part about the 4 days off

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