Question about Training
10-03-2019 | 10:00 AM
#161
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And a free hotel isn't income either, but it sure helps not having to pay the bill. Nobody is calling PD income. It is however, just like the paid for hotel, definitely part of the compensation package. You have to look at everything to compare (and we are still below average)
10-03-2019 | 10:05 AM
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There's no excuse for what they do. But to say it's a wash is embarrassing. Why don't we instead compare our set up to united, FedEx, Alaska, JetBlue, American etc?
Because it wouldn't even come close to a comparison, at all.
Now frontiers setup, I will say I prefer ours personally.
Because it wouldn't even come close to a comparison, at all.
Now frontiers setup, I will say I prefer ours personally.
Until we get PS (money), comparable pay in every year, comparable vacation ASO, PS travel for training doesn't really matter.
10-03-2019 | 11:03 AM
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Now you’re all butt hurt about the “it’s a wash statement” but, exactly as I laid it out, it’s a true statement. It’s not a defense of our contract. It’s not an acceptance of our terrible training pay based on Delta’s terrible training compensation. It doesn’t show support for any of it, and it sure as ****** doesn’t indicate the reason we have our current contract. Those are all talking points you keep throwing into the conversation that no one is bringing up or arguing against when your numbers keep failing. For some reason you decided to get your contract soap box out today. Give it a rest.
10-03-2019 | 11:04 AM
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It was $4800ish pre-tax the last time I bothered to look at it. Maybe that’s changed, but after taxes, insurance etc you get...wait for it because you and math aren’t friends....$4000.
Now you’re all butt hurt about the “it’s a wash statement” but, exactly as I laid it out, it’s a true statement. It’s not a defense of our contract. It’s not an acceptance of our terrible training pay based on Delta’s terrible compensation. It doesn’t show support for any of it, and it sure as ****** doesn’t indicate the reason we have our current contract. Those are all talking points you keep throwing into the conversation that no one is bringing up or arguing when you numbers keep failing. For some reason you decided to get your contract soap box out today. Give it a rest.
Now you’re all butt hurt about the “it’s a wash statement” but, exactly as I laid it out, it’s a true statement. It’s not a defense of our contract. It’s not an acceptance of our terrible training pay based on Delta’s terrible compensation. It doesn’t show support for any of it, and it sure as ****** doesn’t indicate the reason we have our current contract. Those are all talking points you keep throwing into the conversation that no one is bringing up or arguing when you numbers keep failing. For some reason you decided to get your contract soap box out today. Give it a rest.
But hey, it's a wash guys
10-03-2019 | 12:19 PM
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I know, numbers iz hard. But at the end of the day and until Delta picks up the hotel tab, the difference in take home pay is inconsequential. And that’s the only thing I’ve ever suggested and you’ve failed to debunk.
Happy ranting.
10-03-2019 | 12:26 PM
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Again. You and math aren’t friends. The taxation on $1000 is next to nothing whereas the DL trainees are in the second tax bracket after the second month.
I know, numbers iz hard. But at the end of the day and until Delta picks up the hotel tab, the difference in take home pay is inconsequential. And that’s the only thing I’ve ever suggested and you’ve failed to debunk.
Happy ranting.
I know, numbers iz hard. But at the end of the day and until Delta picks up the hotel tab, the difference in take home pay is inconsequential. And that’s the only thing I’ve ever suggested and you’ve failed to debunk.
Happy ranting.
10-03-2019 | 12:48 PM
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Can we stop comparing ourselves to other airlines and just agree that the training pay is ass?
I wonder if the training package sent out to new hires should include the spirit MasterCard application.
I wonder if the training package sent out to new hires should include the spirit MasterCard application.
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